07 coldair intake, is it safe?
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07 coldair intake, is it safe?
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Jan 28 2008, 02:08 PM
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'07 Elantra Group: Lifetimer Posts: 85 Posts Per Day: 0.01 Thanks Received: 0 Trader Stats: 0 (0%) Joined: 20-July 07 From: SYRACUSE , NY Member No.: 4,465 Mood: Numb |
Any one with a 07 try the cold air intake yet? I have one but are not sure if it is safe to install.Inside the intake box there is a radiator for some thing i believe is the ecu.the question beggs if I remove the box to install the cold air unit will the ecu over heat?Is the 07 the only model to have this issue?
-------------------- ROBERT HUSTON
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Jan 28 2008, 03:49 PM
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The teach Group: Lifetimer Posts: 6,786 Posts Per Day: 0.97 Thanks Received: 0 Trader Stats: 0 (0%) Joined: 24-February 05 From: Tacoma Member No.: 426 Mood: Calm |
Any one with a 07 try the cold air intake yet? I have one but are not sure if it is safe to install.Inside the intake box there is a radiator for some thing i believe is the ecu.the question beggs if I remove the box to install the cold air unit will the ecu over heat?Is the 07 the only model to have this issue? I tried a 3 inch CAI, but it threw a lean code, but a smaller diameter tube may not lean the mixture that much. Yes, the airbox air does cool the ECU. Hyundai designed it in that way for a reason. Will it overheat the ECU? Personally, I chose to keep the airbox stock, but install a panel filter. I was not going to risk damaging the ECU (an expensive item) and have trouble down the road. -------------------- "Childhood is measured by sounds and smells and sights before the dark hour of reason grows"
John Betjeman |
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Jan 28 2008, 04:31 PM
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Educated Fool Group: Lifetimer Posts: 4,895 Posts Per Day: 0.72 Thanks Received: 1 Trader Stats: 1 (100%) Joined: 2-October 05 From: Newark, Ohio Member No.: 1,461 Mood: Accomplished |
Shouldn't cause any harm period.
-------------------- Come mothers and fathers / Throughout the land And don't criticize / What you can't understand Your sons and your daughters / Are beyond your command Your old road is / Rapidly agin'. Please get out of the new one / If you can't lend your hand For the times they are a-changin'. |
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Jan 28 2008, 05:19 PM
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Nanomember Group: Lifetimer Posts: 7,787 Posts Per Day: 1.11 Thanks Received: 57 Trader Stats: 2 (100%) Joined: 27-January 05 From: College Park, MD Member No.: 106 Mood: Blah |
Why are you so sure? The ECU's heatsink cooled by lots ambient air at maybe 30-40C vs under-hood temperatures of 50-60C or more with close to zero air flow... and it's an expensive item to replace! Unless Hyundai did that unnecessary change only to make us question the wisdom of CAI's... that would be sneaky... maybe there's an ECU temperature sensor to detect use of a CAI... maybe it all explodes above 50C!! AaAAAah!! I dunno man...I dunno
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Jan 28 2008, 06:01 PM
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The teach Group: Lifetimer Posts: 6,786 Posts Per Day: 0.97 Thanks Received: 0 Trader Stats: 0 (0%) Joined: 24-February 05 From: Tacoma Member No.: 426 Mood: Calm |
Why are you so sure? The ECU's heatsink cooled by lots ambient air at maybe 30-40C vs under-hood temperatures of 50-60C or more with close to zero air flow... and it's an expensive item to replace! Unless Hyundai did that unnecessary change only to make us question the wisdom of CAI's... that would be sneaky... maybe there's an ECU temperature sensor to detect use of a CAI... maybe it all explodes above 50C!! AaAAAah!! I dunno man...I dunno There is a 4-5 page thread on EXD about the Incus SRI and the ECU cooling issue. Hyundai did place the ECU next to the open port for a reason. I'm assuming it is there to cool the ECU. Also, the ECU mount bracket also holds the stock airbox. It would look funny if a CAI were on there and this big bracket holding the ECU is still there. -------------------- "Childhood is measured by sounds and smells and sights before the dark hour of reason grows"
John Betjeman |
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Jan 28 2008, 07:35 PM
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I'm Frank... Group: Members Posts: 2,269 Posts Per Day: 0.34 Thanks Received: 0 Trader Stats: 0 (0%) Joined: 31-March 06 From: Nova Scotia, Canada Member No.: 2,063 Mood: Accomplished |
Shouldn't cause any harm period. I'm not sure any of us have enough experience of the HD to say this with such certainty. -------------------- "The difference between a smart person and a wise person is that a smart person knows what to say and a wise person knows whether or not to say it."
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Jan 28 2008, 07:43 PM
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The teach Group: Lifetimer Posts: 6,786 Posts Per Day: 0.97 Thanks Received: 0 Trader Stats: 0 (0%) Joined: 24-February 05 From: Tacoma Member No.: 426 Mood: Calm |
I'm not sure any of us have enough experience of the HD to say this with such certainty. Exactly. I'm not going to chance it. -------------------- "Childhood is measured by sounds and smells and sights before the dark hour of reason grows"
John Betjeman |
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Jan 28 2008, 08:52 PM
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Power Poster Group: Lifetimer Posts: 327 Posts Per Day: 0.05 Thanks Received: 0 Trader Stats: 1 (100%) Joined: 23-August 07 From: Northern Indiana Member No.: 4,741 Mood: Pissed |
Since the original poster is in Syracuse NY, I thinking it probably wouldn't be a problem. There are few days in the summer there that it gets that hot. It the OP had lived in say Phoenix, I would think that would probably be a much bigger issue.
But as Cclngthr said, until we know more you are gambling with a very expensive, and must have piece of equipment. -------------------- A proud member of the club.
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Jan 28 2008, 09:25 PM
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The teach Group: Lifetimer Posts: 6,786 Posts Per Day: 0.97 Thanks Received: 0 Trader Stats: 0 (0%) Joined: 24-February 05 From: Tacoma Member No.: 426 Mood: Calm |
Since the original poster is in Syracuse NY, I thinking it probably wouldn't be a problem. There are few days in the summer there that it gets that hot. It the OP had lived in say Phoenix, I would think that would probably be a much bigger issue. But as Cclngthr said, until we know more you are gambling with a very expensive, and must have piece of equipment. That piece of equipment does run/monitor more than the engine on the car. It also is something I don't want to recommend yet. I have the HD, and still don't want to mess with something that controls things that are critical. -------------------- "Childhood is measured by sounds and smells and sights before the dark hour of reason grows"
John Betjeman |
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Jan 29 2008, 12:11 AM
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'07 Elantra Group: Lifetimer Posts: 85 Posts Per Day: 0.01 Thanks Received: 0 Trader Stats: 0 (0%) Joined: 20-July 07 From: SYRACUSE , NY Member No.: 4,465 Mood: Numb |
I am not willing to chance it.I will not use the cai untill I talk to to the dealer ship.the only way I am going to chance it is if the dealer will warranty the ecu and I do not believe they will.this car is a pain to mod!
-------------------- ROBERT HUSTON
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Jan 29 2008, 12:53 AM
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Educated Fool Group: Lifetimer Posts: 4,895 Posts Per Day: 0.72 Thanks Received: 1 Trader Stats: 1 (100%) Joined: 2-October 05 From: Newark, Ohio Member No.: 1,461 Mood: Accomplished |
It's a Hyundai... by its very nature it's a pain to mod (sad but true)
-------------------- Come mothers and fathers / Throughout the land And don't criticize / What you can't understand Your sons and your daughters / Are beyond your command Your old road is / Rapidly agin'. Please get out of the new one / If you can't lend your hand For the times they are a-changin'. |
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Jan 29 2008, 09:51 AM
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Proud GLT Owner Group: Lifetimer Posts: 21,140 Posts Per Day: 3.02 Thanks Received: 633 Trader Stats: 3 (100%) Joined: 11-March 05 From: Brownsburg, IN Member No.: 532 Mood: Hyper |
*SIGH* . . .what happened to all of our Pioneers? THe ones that took the chances to find out what worked? It seems people just want it on a silver platter but don't understand the sacrifices people like Jay, Ford and the like did to make it happen so long ago.
Basically, until some one tries it out, we won't know. Period. Colin and his doom&gloom theories about how cars are to never be touched are way to the left, while Joe's carefree "it'll be fine" attitude is to the right. The real answer is probably inbetween. -------------------- Founding Member of the Indiana Chapter of the Teeny Weeny Club for Secure Adult Males
"Drag racing is for fast cars, and autocrossing is for fast drivers" -Toecutter |
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