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16th September 2011 - 11:22 AM Last post by: popeye |
The partner and I went to the Melbourne International Motor Show yesterday. We checked out most of the new cars at the show, with the exception of the Holden / Daewoo stand... No thanks!
Anyway we looked at the new i40 estate. This car is freaking amazing! The level of quality and standard features is unbelievable!
The model we checked out was fully loaded...
- 9 Airbags
- Front and Rear heated seats
- Heated Steering wheel
- Dual Zone climate control
- Leather - which was of excellent quality
- Front and rear parking sensors with reverse park assistance
- Reversing camera
- 1.7 CRDi Turbo Diesel (I love this one!)
- 18inch brushed alloy wheels with a full size alloy spare
- Fastening equipment in the cargo area
- Driver and Front passenger electric seats
- Dimension Audio system / optional Sat Nav
Most importantly it is sexy as! Hyundai has done an outstanding job on the i40 and when looked at side by side with the Sonata / i45 here. The Sonata looks like it missed out on quite a bit of styling and extra flair the i40 has. It's definitely nothing like the Hyundai Sonata. The i40 was purely designed as an estate. The sedan is the second sibling.
Anyone looking at buying a Sonata / i45 should certainly wait for the i40 to be released!
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11th September 2011 - 08:34 AM Last post by: only1db |
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Hyundai is hyping hydrogen, cruising cross-country in a fuel-cell Tuscon to turn people on to the fuel of the future.
We’ve seen this before, from the likes of Daimler and Honda and even Toyota, all of whom firmly believe hydrogen will mend our fuelish ways. For all the love hybrids and battery electrics get these days, several leading automakers still say hydrogen is the best long-term play.
Hyundai’s been
experimenting with hydrogen for more than a decade, and it is conducting a 4,500-mile tour through 15 states in the Tuscon ix FCEV and to promote its advancements and advocacy of the technology. This is the company’s third-gen Tuscon fuel cell vehicle, and
Hyundai let us put a few miles on the car during its drive through San Francisco.
Aside from a paint job featuring colorful handprints — to promote the automaker’s Hope on Wheels fundraising program — the fuel cell Tuscon looks like the Tuscon you’d see in any showroom. Turn the key – ignition isn’t the right word here – and you notice a difference, however.
The vehicle begins with a sucking sound, like a valve slowly closing. If you’re outside the car, you hear a slight hum from the drivetrain. But inside the car, which is comfortable and quite nicely appointed, the Tuscon is as silent as an electric vehicle. Which, of course, it is. The only difference is the Tuscon uses a fuel cell instead of a battery to provide most of the juice.
Hyundai says the 100-kilowatt fuel cell is the same size as the 2.4-liter engine in a conventional Tuscon. The fuel cell and motor are under the hood, and the 21 kilowatt-hour battery is under the floor. A tank at the rear holds 144 liters of hydrogen at 700 bar (roughly 10,000 PSI). Everything is packaged tidily out of the way, leaving plenty of interior room.
On the road, the machine drives like any other Tuscon, but with a little less power. The motor is good for 100 kilowatts (134 horsepower), which is considerably less than the 165 horsepower provided by a Tuscon GL with a four-banger. But there’s loads of torque and, of course, nothing more noxious than potable water coming out of the tailpipe.
Hyundai wouldn’t let us really open it up, though. Joshua Marmelstein, the engineer riding shotgun with us, asked us to keep the motor output below 25 kilowatts. Hydrogen may be the most plentiful element in the universe, but isn’t exactly easy to come by when you need to fill your tank. Hyundai didn’t want us using so much that the Tuscon wouldn’t reach its next stop.
Still, we got a good enough feel for the Tuscon to say that it is, like the
Honda FCX Clarity and the Mercedes-Benz F-Cell we’ve driven, a real car. You could drive it all day long, quite happily. It does everything you want it to.
The big pitch for hydrogen is, of course, that it offers the zero tailpipe emissions and energy independence of battery electric vehicles without the limited range and long recharge time. You can fill the Tuson’s tank quite quickly, and it has a range of 650 kilometers (roughly 404 miles). Hyundai says it gets the equivalent of 70 mpg, or more than twice the highway fuel economy of a four-cylinder Tuscon.
Hyundai isn’t alone in preaching the hydrogen gospel. Honda’s been leasing the Clarity for a couple of years, and both
Mercedes-Benz and
Toyota plan to offer fuel cell vehicles for sale in 2015. The two automakers are shooting for a price in the $50,000 ballpark. The price is driven in large part by the fuel cells, which use rare materials like platinum.
But cost has always been only part of the problem. There is no significant infrastructure to speak of for producing, distributing and storing hydrogen on a large scale. There are
half a dozen or so stations in California —
the latest opened near Los Angeles earlier this year, and public stations beyond the Golden State are few and far between. It’s enough of a problem that Hyundai will rely upon support vehicles carrying tanks of hydrogen to get it through the midwest. And then there’s the whole issue of how hydrogen is produced, the fact it’s most often transported by truck, the argument that it won’t be adopted fast enough to make a difference, and… and… but those are issues for another post. Actually,
we’ve already written that post.
The bottom line is, Hyundai — like Daimler and Honda — are optimistic the infrastructure issue will be sorted out. Company spokesman Christopher Hosford suggests starting with hydrogen stations along trucking routes. Do that, he says, and the rest of the country will follow.
Maybe. It it does, it could do worse than to do so in a Tuscon ix FCEV.
Photos: Jon Snyder/Wired.comYou’ll find the fuel cell under the hood. It draws hydrogen from tanks mounted under the car.
Not too shabby!
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14th August 2011 - 11:31 PM Last post by: fuelrat |
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5th August 2011 - 02:27 AM Last post by: mlumz |
So I received this in the mail today:
Hmmm... what's this?
I guess Hyundai figured if they sent me a wine stopper I might buy an Equus. I guess it's worth a shot...
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8th April 2011 - 01:37 PM Last post by: jamhandman |
SO, some of you know the wife's Turd (2000 Accent GL) failed to start a week and a half ago for the first time in three and a half years, and 80k miles. It's been dead nuts reliable and never not started and run. Well.... we got it home and it sat for a week before I even got it into the garage. Finally broke down and bought a decent scanner that graphs functions and traced it down to the CKP Sensor (crankshaft position). Came in to work this morning, called my friend across the street (literally) and they no longer stock 11 year old Hyundai parts.... go figure!
So I looked it up on our Napa website, they had it in stock and ordered it. Cost me $2 more than I could get it at my uber-discount across the street, but I didn't have to wait until next week. Comes in, open the box (I'd brought the old one in) and guess what? It's an OEM part, in an Echlin box. Just like myrear hub bearings were. Just like the TPS I got a couple years ago.
So I guess the moral of the story is: Don't be afraid to buy NAPA electrical parts because they're apparently OEM!
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2nd March 2011 - 12:21 PM Last post by: Tony240 |
final edit: ended up not getting the Soul, dealer kept screwing up and did not get the car for over 2 weeks, we went on vacation for a week and got back they did not have the leather put in like they promised, so we are just staying as is for a while with the Grand Caravan for another year or so.
edit: Well, ended up getting a Soul.
Yea, basically the same car, both are new for 2011.
I am not real crazy about the Sonata's exterior and like the Optima's a little better (but think it is a little bland, but the Sonata's is just a little to weird for me, but not a huge dealbreaker). I like the Sonata interior a little better (not sure about the AC controls in the Sonata, need to actually see and feel how they work). Looking at leather in both, so the Limited for the Sonata and EX for the Optima, Sonata has black (which I really like) and grey, Optima only has grey (don't want beige).
Price wise, the Sonata seems to be a little more, but Hyundai has a $500 rebate for current owners, which brings the price closer.
Optima EX with Premium Package - $25,440
Sonata Limited with floor mats - $26,345
Edmunds.com shows a true market value (take that for what it is worth) as $24,435 for the Optima and $25,018 for the Sonata (and I would get $500 off the Sonata for owner loyalty).
I hope to go and take some test drives next week and see what I like better.
Any opinions?
Also, I have thought of getting another Elantra or a Forte, but really am wanting a true midsize car. This will be for the wife to drive, and she can't stand the size of my Elantra, and I have told her the new ones are better, but she wants a bigger car.
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19th February 2011 - 06:59 PM Last post by: slowgls |
Well kinda been looking at getting a different car. Went on ebay to look Hyundais and kinda liking the xg350Ls but don't know anything about them.Do they share a platform with the Sonata or is it its own platform.How good is the 3.5l motor?Has any one here ever had one or drove one? What are the good year to have? Dont know if i will buy soon, just want info on this car. Here is one i kinda like
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Clean-Luxur...=item27b8aa28bb
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4th February 2011 - 08:31 PM Last post by: 04GTboyVA |
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25th January 2011 - 08:36 PM Last post by: only1db |
So I'm driving the Accent the rest of this week after teh wife complained about some noises something or another (nothing wrong with it that I can find). So on my hour drive in (normally 25 minutes) I was day dreaming about how much fun that car would be if the suspension didn't remind me of a late 80's Lincoln..... struts and springs are only about $400.... Then I was thinking that it would really benefit from a nice set of 15" Kosei's wrapped in 225/45/15 Hankook RS-3's as well.
Well, that brings me to the fact that while it would look good and handle like a demon..... it's still only got 92hp. So then the thoughts of a Beta Swap into it would be perfect. make 140whp in a 2300lb car with a taller final drive than the Elantra....only thing left would be a couple of good seats to hold you in place.....
Plese, someone talk me down from this. It's loooking like a really good idea.
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17th January 2011 - 09:10 PM Last post by: Doohickie |
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30th November 2010 - 02:11 PM Last post by: Bobzilla |
Good little car. Great gas mileage, doesn't know how to die. but the little nickle and dime things that annoy the shit out of you are starting to pile up. This morning it was a belt squeal that I spent 90 mintes tracking down and was unable to fix (looks to be the AC clutch), which then went completely away when I got halfway to work. Couple weeks back was the main cat code again, but it has not come back. A couple months before was a broken spring in the rear drums causing an issue there....before that.... well, you get the idea.
If it wasn't running so well and being just 100% dependable these annoying things would find this car a new home. Anyone else frustrated with high mile annoyances? BTW, the car turned over 185k miles on it this morning.
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14th October 2010 - 04:59 PM Last post by: Rob |
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7th October 2010 - 12:54 AM Last post by: cobas |
The summary is what many of us would expect: Excellent value. Loads of luxury features and room for the money, good ride quality and quietness, more than adequate power and good luxury style/feel. But the "feel" isn't as top-notch solid as the Germans or Lexus, it's no sport-sedan and the rear seats are excellent for people under 6-feet tall.
"...the level of luxury for the price is completely unmatched. Actually, that's an understatement. It's simply unheard of. There's absolutely nothing in the new car market that matches the Equus on the amenities front for a similar price-point"
"the Equus is packing more interior volume than nearly every luxury flagship on the market"
" the graphics – from the climate to GPS displays – are a generation or two behind what's being offered by Audi and BMW. "
"if Audi is a tactile '10', M-B a nine and BMW an eight, the Equus is somewhere between a six and seven"
"With a coefficient of drag of 0.27 and acoustic-laminated glass fitted to the windshield and both the front and rear doors, the Equus is crypt-quiet"
Steering: " anyone looking for a sense of Sport to go with their Lux would do better to look elsewhere. "
Other highlights:
- More than adequate power from Tau V8 and 6-speed automatic but fairly poor fuel economy 16/24.
- Heated, Cooled and Massaging Driver's seat.
- Power Reclining rear seat with power foot rest and head rest, DVD player and mini-fridge in Ultimate trim.
Another quandary for car reviewers. Do you compare this $50-60k car with it's range-topping luxury size competitors (S-Class, 7-series, Lexus LS which start at $88k, $70k and $65k respectively) or with its price-class competitors which are the $50k, $45k and $46k E-Class, 5-series and GS even though they don't have all the features it has?
Do people go shopping for "a range-topping luxury sedan," or "A $55k luxury sedan" ?
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/09/07/2011-hy...view-road-test/
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12th July 2010 - 02:08 PM Last post by: jamhandman |
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17th June 2010 - 07:01 AM Last post by: MalibuJack |
What's better than free coffee, comfy chairs and free WiFi at your dealership service waiting area? Not being at the dealership.
One of the biggest complaints about Hyundai ownership so far has been the dealership service departments. You can blame it on the cars, you can blame it on the service writers or customer service, or you can blame it on stupid customers. Regardless, Hyundai is aiming to have its Equus buyers never have to set foot in a service department again. The Equus luxury sedan maintenance program will send a driver to your home or office with a loaner car for you and will drop your fix/maintained car back at your home or office when they're done. Ta-da...
" As Krafcik sees it, other luxury automakers have spent millions of dollars to gussy up their dealerships – building things like coffee bars, fancy seating areas and water features. Problem is, nobody really wants to visit their dealer even with those added niceties, so Hyundai plans to remove it from the equation with its pick-up and delivery service. In other words, the ultimate luxury is never having to take your car to the dealer at all. Fair enough."http://www.autoblog.com/2010/06/15/hyundai...y-its-no-vw-ph/
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8th April 2010 - 10:05 AM Last post by: Bigs |
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22nd March 2010 - 05:13 PM Last post by: Bobzilla |
So Sat the wife was complaining about the Turd making funny noises. So since she called in sick today and I don't go in until noon I went out and changed the oil (2qts low, had 7400 miles on this oil change!). Pulled the rear drums, readjusted only to have them go back out of adjustment with first pedal push.... needs new adjusters and shoes. Put it together, fired it up and heard the belt chirp.... no prob. Tightend up the alt and p/s belt as they were loose and noticed the edges a little ragged. Well, it's almost been 60k since the last belt change 2 years ago, so a little of that is to be expected. Fired it back up and took it for a 4 mile drive.... it's louder. And getting louder as it idles.
Pull the long screwdriver and check the p/s pump, Alt, both not the cause. Stick it down on the w/p housing.... jackpot. You can watch the pulleys wobble. Then I noticed a little steam coming from the radiator... but the temp gauge is not reading hot. Aw crap.....
So right now, best case scenario is new t-belt, accessoy belts and a waterpump, new rear shoes and adjusters and maybe parking brake cables. Worst case, a new radiator too.
I guess I can't complain.... the car has 173k miles on it, the engine/trans have 119k on them. Jsut comes at a bad time. With my shoulder on the mend, the auto-x season about to start and work needed on the Swift timing sucks.
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4th March 2010 - 08:34 AM Last post by: Bigs |
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30th January 2010 - 12:47 AM Last post by: popeye |
Looking at these pics, I have to wonder how the Tuscon passes government 5mph bumper tests?
I'm sure there's impact absorbing stuff under there, but you can't tell me that the lift gate or the grill/headlights aren't going to get damaged in a low speed impact. I mean, there's like 1 inch of bumper, if that!
more pics here...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Hyundai-Tuc...=item3359296bf2
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22nd January 2010 - 02:38 PM Last post by: Bobzilla |
The 2010 Tucson was compared and tested agained 3 other quality CUV's. The results should put a smile on Hyundai's face... a solid second behind the Honda. Here's a little bit of what they said about the all-new Tucson:
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Easily the best-looking vehicle of the bunch, inside and out.
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The Tucson's 0-to-60 (8.8 seconds) and quarter-mile (16.7 seconds at 82.8 mph) times were best of the group, and its lateral acceleration (0.79 g), figure eight (28.5 seconds at 0.58 g), and 60-to-0 braking (120 feet) trail only those of the lightweight Forester. Moreover, of the four CUVs here, the Tucson manages to stay flattest through corners, the byproduct of a firm suspension.
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2nd Place: Hyundai Tucson AWD Limited
Stiff ride and spotty steering handicap an otherwise quick, agile, and choice CUV.
Here's the complete comparo test:
http://www.trucktrend.com/roadtests/suv/16...ster/index.html
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1st January 2010 - 08:21 AM Last post by: only1db |
Here are some pics of the upcoming 2010 Tucson:
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27th December 2009 - 08:17 PM Last post by: Stevetheriddler |
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17th October 2009 - 06:43 PM Last post by: Ishtar |
Anyone have experience with the Tucson? My girlfriend's Civic might need major work. If it does, she wants a small SUV. I'm trying to sell her on the Tucson rather than the CRV. Obviously, it's a Hyundai and 3k cheaper and comes with more features than the base CRV, but I've never driven or had a friend with one.
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17th September 2009 - 10:24 PM Last post by: popeye |
I thought I'd go through Hyundai's design concepts and see where they all ended up...
Arjens
I think this one basically became the i30 hatchback. The rear design is almost exactly what became the i30 hatch. The front was more heavily modified but the overall layout is still the i30's / Elantra Touring design. The curved hood, the headlights flowing into the fenders, the airdam features are all modified versions.
Genesis Concept
We don't need to figure out what happened to this one. The Genesis sedan was impressively close to the design concept in styling. The front fascia of the concept was more aggressive and menacing than the production version ended up. Maybe they thought it was a little too weird and menacing for most customers? We may see that facia and hood come back in some refreshed version of the Genesis sedan.
Genus Concept
This one is similar (earlier?) to the Arjens concept and the front ended up modified onto the Elantra Touring / i30. However the side profile and the rear of this wagon is gorgeous, IMO, and it just didn't go anywhere. I would bet those broad shoulders and creased lines don't do much for interior space on a compact car, or for production cost. Sharp creases are expensive. Still... beautiful. Come on Hyundai, Do iT!
Actually some of the rear styling is in the new Tuscon, but I still hope they make this a compact wagon.
HCD8 (Hyundai California Design #8)
This was a RWD sports car before the Genesis Coupe became news. I don't see a huge resemblance to the Genesis Coupe there, at all really. I'm not sure what happened to this one, but it wasn't my favorite anyway.
HCD9
I don't think this one has been incorporated into any current products either, but I seem to remember hearing they may actually make a vehicle like this in the next few years. I think it'd be a niche product looking like a lifted sports car... but then the Murano, Infinity FX and BMW X6 are getting there already.
HCD10
This isn't my style, but I think it's cute. In the same way the Kia Soul is cute and got great reviews. It looks like something straight out of the game Halo, which should be appealing to brand-new car buyers. I dunno.
HED5 (Hyundai Europe Design #5)
This was supposed to resemble the Elantra Touring concept.... liars.
HED6
This is pretty clearly the new Tuscon. Not bad. I see some elements of the Genus here.
Neos3
Interesting but haven't heard much from here.
Portico
Clearly not the Entourage; maybe it's a future minivan? Hyundai has no minivan right now, right?
QarmaQ
Meh. Who knows.
iBlue
This one is pretty new so not sure where it's going.
Veloster
They announced something like this would be produced as a small, light hatchback with a sporty flair. I think the spec was a 1.6L direct-injection making 140hp, reminiscent of the Honda CRX. Should be good for Autocross and fuel-efficient.
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12th September 2009 - 01:49 AM Last post by: equus |
Apparently this is the first official pic of the all new upcoming Tucson. Very nice!
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9th September 2009 - 07:20 PM Last post by: tizzo |
My sister took her '07 Santa Fe into the dealer to have a couple of TSB's performed as well as her parking brake adjusted. Well, they did all the work and then told her that the parking brake design doesn't allow it to be tightened very much. Well she came to my parent's house and the brake wasn't even holding the car by itself on their not super steep driveway. Was the dealer bullshitting her or is it really just a crappy design? If what they said is true, then I would think that it could be a possible recall issue.
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1st September 2009 - 10:31 PM Last post by: RHINESEL |
Well Friday night we packed up the kids in my wifes 2006 Hyundai Santa Fe and began our road trip out to Pittsburgh. We decided to stay in a little town called Bedford which is about a 3 1/2 hour drive from our house. Between a late start and the numerous downpours we didn't get into Bedford until about 11:30pm Friday. Saturday morning was a much easier 1 1/2 hour drive to the dealership and everything went smoothly. It was by far the easiest, most satisfying experience ever at a dealership. We got the Entourage from Power of Bowser outside Pittsburgh (and so far they get two thumbs up from me). Then after signing on the dotted line, we took our new (used) 2008 Entourage up to the Children's museum of Pittsburgh where our kids had a great time. After the museum we went to the Hard Rock cafe for dinner, where we felt a little out of place because almost everyone was wearing Steelers jerseys (and we're big Eagles fans). Apparently there was a preseason game Saturday night. After dinner, we started our 2 hour drive back to the hotel and sat up and watched a movie in the room. Then Sunday morning we got up and drove past Fort Bedford and Old Bedford Village. After that we took a little drive to a spot called Gravity Hill. Its this little country road where water runs up hill and if you put your car in neutral it rolls uphill. It was pretty crazy. Both my wife and I felt a little weird standing there. Definitely something weird is going on there. Then we took a 1 1/2 hour drive north to go see Penns Cave. We took a nice boat ride tour through the cave. After that we started our 3 1/2 hour ride back home. Overall it was a fun road trip and the van handled and drove great. It was definitely a pleasure to drive!
Now a little more about the Entourage. It is a 2008 Entourage Limited with the DVD/sunroof package. The color is Green Meadow Gray with the gray leather interior. We have dual power sliding doors, a power rear tailgate, backup warning sensors, Infinity stereo system, dual automatic climate control for the front (which is great cuz I'm always hot and my wife is cold), separate rear temp controls that we can either control or switch to let the kids adjust when they get a little older, heated seats, dvd player, sunroof, alloy wheels, power pedals, mirrors and seats with memory settings, etc. Basically everything and then some! It technically has a used title as it was sold at auction from a dealership that went out of business in Georgia. However, since it is a certified pre-owned model, we still get the powertrain coverage to 100k miles. It had 200 miles on it when we picked it up and now has a couple hundred more after our roadtrip. My only complaint is that I already miss driving it! Well here are some pics of the road trip and various stops along the way!
Childrens Museum and Hard Rock:
Sunday Morning in Bedford:
Gravity Hill:
We started here in neutral:
And coasted to the end (uphill) here:
Penns Cave visit:
Misc. Pics on the road
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26th August 2009 - 11:14 AM Last post by: Alex2004GT |
Well after I did a couple months of research, basically ever since we found out my wife was pregnant with our third, we finally made up our mind and are becoming a mini-van family! We are taking a cross-state trip out to Pittsburgh to pick up a New (Used) Hyundai Entourage in green meadow gray. The Entourage is a fully loaded limited model with leather, DVD player, alloy wheels, sunroof, and power everything. The best part is we're getting a great deal on the Entourage as well as getting a great trade in value. We had my wife's car appraised at a couple dealerships (Honda, Toyota and Mazda) and they were coming back with about 9k for a trade in (which is what KBB says). We're getting between 10,500 and 11,000 for a trade in which is what I was hoping for. So its a win win for us! Well anyways
this is the van we're getting. We're driving out Friday night and staying the weekend to visit a couple places in Pittsburgh. Pictures of the van and our cross-state trip will follow.
Ohh and one of the reasons we're getting a great deal is the Van came from a dealership in GA that went out of business and all their inventory was sold at auction. So technically we are buying a certified pre-owned Hyundai with less than 20 miles! They must have had a ton of inventory because the dealer we're picking this one up from said they picked 42 up, sold those and then picked another 20+ up.
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24th August 2009 - 02:24 PM Last post by: equus |
Saw this pic from the funeral of the Korean leader. The car in the procession with his poster on top looks like a Genesis......but it's a CONVERTIBLE.
Whadda you guys think ?
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21st August 2009 - 10:50 PM Last post by: RHINESEL |
Well after doing a substantial amount of research and then making a couple stops at dealerships I think we have finally narrowed down what vehicle we are planning on getting. And that vehicle is a 2007 Hyundai Entourage Limited, with the beige leather interior with wood trim and the exterior colors we'd consider are Black, Cranberry Red, or the light blue. Now I just need to find one within a reasonable distance for a decent price. Unfortunately we decided about a week too late as a dealership around the corner had one (a 2007 limited model) that they sold for 15k!!! It was black which is my wife's numer one color. So anyways, if you happen to see an Entourage for sale that matches our criteria feel free to let me know. If we can't find a limited model, we might consider the SE (though I really prefer the leather which is so perrrrty). We're also looking at getting one with 45k or less miles (to ensure we have 1-2 years of warranty coverage left)
As an FYI, we pretty much narrowed it down to the Odyssey, Sienna, or Entourage. We looked at a new Odyssey which was nice but very pricey. Then we stopped at a Toyota dealership to check out Sienna's but found out they only had two in stock, one of which was new and one was old. We peered in the used one's and found the interior VERY bland and unispiring. Then we were walking back we glanced in the interior of the 2008 cranberry red limited entourage they had sitting on the lot and my wife was quite impressed. We took it out for a test drive (both my wife and I took turns driving it) and at that time decided what we wanted which is also the most economical to buy!
Also, the main reason we decided on a 2007 v. a 2008 is that the asking prices are substantially less. There seem to be a bunch of 2008's that are "used" which dealerships picked up at auction (basically new cars with less than 200 miles) but that seems to make everyone else think they can ask crazy prices for entourages that are truly used with 30-40k miles.
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