Hello all (particularly Ontarians).

Please remember to vote today, the polling booths are open from 9am until 9pm.

Things you need to vote:

Go to your riding polling station (you can search for them at elections.ca)

Photo ID
Be on the voter's list

If you are not on the voters list you can either:

Bring Photo ID and a bill showing your address
or
Swear an oath on the spot that YES, this is your riding.

Please get out and vote! Keep in mind that only 60% of eligible Canadians actually vote.

http://www.thestar.com/News/Ontario/article/261595

Basically: get nailed for 50kph over the limit (30mph for yanks) and with no right of appeal, the cops can impound your car for 7 days, suspend your license for 7 days, and other fun things

So GO SLOW in Ontario!

I've been living here and paying taxes since 1989 so I thought it was about time.

The big day was yesterday... 40 new citizens swore in from 20 different countries... Australia to Zimbabwe!

I even got to shake hands with a Mountie face to face... I'm more used to talking to them out the car window

Anyhow it feels great

Are ther any members who live around halifax Nova Scotia. looking for a bunch of people to hang with

I am ashamed of what has become of this. I feel like I am dealing with children sometimes.

HYUNDAI SUNDAY WILL BE HELD ON SUNDAY AUGUST 19th 2007.

This is final.

I am sorry this had to be so difficult.

To those who can make it, I look forward to seeing you there.

To those who can't make it, I am sorry we won't be seeing you. I will try to plan a little "pool hall" meeting on the Saturday night.

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Has any one else read this from Cottonmouth ?

CC

so tonight me and joph09 met up and went cruising. and we thought it would be cool for a winnipeg/manitoba meet. so since no one wants to organize it, i will here are the details:

sunday August 12 at kildonan park in the rainbow parking lot at 6 pm


thanks;

vlad

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I am about to purchase a manual stick 2006 Elantra GT - that is a hatchback. I noticed that the traction control system is not included. But I remember that TCS was included in 2005 model. Do you know any other features/options that are omitted in 2006 model?
-the standard tires? - michellin?hankook?which?
-heated seats?
-choice of seat fabric?
-etc.

Some help is greatly appreciated. I live in Canada.

Identifying Canadian drivers...

1. - One hand on wheel, one hand on horn: MONTREAL

2. - One hand on wheel, one finger out window: TORONTO

3. - One hand on wheel, one finger out window, cutting across all lanes of traffic: OTTAWA

4. - Both hands on wheel, eyes shut, both feet on brake, quivering in terror: SASKATOON, but driving in TORONTO

5. - Both hands in air, gesturing, both feet on accelerator, head turned to talk to someone in the back seat: QUEBEC CITY

6. - One hand on 12 oz. double shot latte, one knee on wheel, cradling cell phone, foot on brake, mind on radio game, banging head on steering wheel while stuck in traffic: VANCOUVER

7. - One hand on wheel, one hand on hunting rifle, alternating between both feet being on the brake and both feet on the accelerator, throwing McDonald's bag out the window: RED DEER

8. - Four wheel drive pick-up truck, shotgun mounted in rear window, beer cans on the floor, raccoon tails attached to the antenna: PRINCE GEORGE

9. - Two hands gripping wheel, blue hair barely visible above windshield driving 40 km/hr on Hwy 1 in the left lane with the left blinker on: VICTORIA

10. - One ski-doo mitt on steering wheel, one ski-doo mitt scrapper in hand out front window scrapping frost, Guess Who on 8 track playing Share The Land, hockey equipment smelling up car interior, waiting at lights for snow removal equipment to finish clearing intersection: WINNIPEG

Hi all,

I'm looking to make some interior changes to my car. Nothing major, just a few nice touches. In particular, I'd love to start with changing my auto shifter, throwing on a boot, and replacing my e-brake.

I know there are a number of sites on the internet that sell these parts but I was wondering if anyone knows of any Canadian stores in the GTA that sell these parts? Most of them are universal, so I know I COULD go to Canadian Tire, but their selection isn't always the most impressive.

Thanks for the help.

Victoriaville Meet 3rd Edition June 22-23-24th 2007

This is the biggest meet of the year for our Quebec Elantras. ElantraQuebec.com presents you with, for the 3rd year in a row, the Victoriaville meet! :bowdown:

Here's what the schedule will look like:

FRIDAY:

Meeting up in Montreal (for members coming from far away, possibility of coming to my place to crash on thursday night/friday if you want). We leave for Sanair at around 7:30 pm (website: http://www.sanairracing.net/champ_dragvendredi.htm). It's a 1/4 mile drag track, 5$ to enter, then an additional 5$ to race for the whole night. You also get a cool sticker on the left side of your windshield that's totally worth the meaning even if you lose your races, haha.

We leave when the track closes at around 11pm, and head for Victoriaville. We should get there at around 12:30 - 1am, we chill out, open the tents, and relax with a couple of beers so we can wake up early the next day

SATURDAY

That's the "Journée Mécanique'' a.k.a. ''Modding Day''. Helping people work on their cars is part of the club's activities! If you have something you have trouble with or are just afraid of installing it, we'll help you get on track! Just to give you an example, on past modding meets, we have done anything from lowering springs, to brake jobs, to even an intercooler installation

BRING YOUR OWN TOOLS!

Later on, we get something to eat and we leave to go up the Mount Artabaska! That is a place filled with stories, especially about yours truly! We take pictures there and drive around town in a caravan showing off and taking pictures in random places. Oh yeah, I forget... E-WALK THE WHIPS!!! :bowdown:

AT NIGHT: June 24th is the official Quebec National day. We MUST party. Now, we have two choices:

1- Go up 30 mins to another town where there will be a huge party, drink, and sleep there. This would mean driving back down the next morning all screwed up though, lol.

2- Chill at our meeting spot and party there, bonfire, chill out, drink, but the only problem: the neighboors. We can't yell too much Last year Monster had to kick my *** to shut up, haha.

WE NEED INPUT ON WHAT YOUR PREFER! WHICH OPTION?

SUNDAY:

Go to eat a nice brunch at L'Evasion, a nice restaurant that we always go to when we go to Victoriaville

Then we can go and see my best friends, the cows, and chill with them. In all seriouseness though, we are still trying to come up with a plan for sunday, but it's coming.

ALL IN ALL The MEET ISNT FULLY PLANNED YET!!! But I wanted to post this as a HEADS UP for all you guys that were thinking to come

AS FAR AS THE BORDER::

US RESIDENTS NEED A BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND OTHER PHOTO ID's. PASSPORT IS NOT REQUIRED.

Now, I need your feedback:

1- For saturday, which do you prefer, drive up for party, or keep it private?
2- Are you going to do any work on your car? If yes, then what will it be?
3- Any other suggestions? Something you would like to do perhaps?


ALSO FOR YOU AMERICANS: This will be the chance for you to get to eat Quebec's OFFICIAL food, the POUTINE!!!! :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Attendees:

So, outside Québec, people that are coming:

- Keyan
- Cypher
- slow 2k2GT

maybe:
- toymachine566
- CornbreadXD

No more Ontarians want to come ??
Did I forget someone ? lol

From Québec:

Will be there
- Monster (i must be there lol)
- Kewlkat
- destroyers + Nancy
- Pase (with maybe Electronix??)
- Jalmir
- Maxmotors
- Spacetrucker
- Freddy Krueger
- l'acadien
- obi_one

maybe:
- Elpi
- ElantraGirl
- Tihug

For the occasional detailer, Princess Auto has a deal on this ROB!

http://www.princessauto.com/moreinfo.cfm?TAG=68136&SCAN=CAN

Just thought I would share with my fellow Canucks!

If you're thinking of buying a home but want to have a large down payment before you make your move, consider that the average house price has increased 9.3% in the last year so a 200k purchase right now would likely be a 218.6K purchase next year. This article details the Provincial averages. If you have any questions please ask the resident mortgage consultant.... me!

Read on!

I'm here for 6 days, what are the recommended places to see / things to do?

Suggestions?

Read Here!




Click here to see how much you are overpaying

Yep, you heard it! I moved to Quebec with my girlfriend.

It was a pain to get the safety done.

Power steering line and hand brake issues.

PS line was covered under warranty, hand brake cable, $200 later. It had to be done if I wanted to switch over.

Nothing will change in my habits as I already drink Pepsi, eat poutine and drink beer! The only thing now that I can do is drive like a total moron as I now have the plate to justify it!

For my fellow Canadian members.
The rates have gone down as of yesterday (even on 100% financing), if ever you're in the market or need some mortgage advice just shoot me off a quick pm.

Could this be the new Elantra hatchback ?

hatchback

CC

Meagan Fitzpatrick, CanWest News Service
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OTTAWA - Liberal MP Mark Holland says Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day should step aside because new information has been handed to the RCMP related to a controversial resignation that opened up a seat in the House of Commons when Day became Canadian Alliance leader.

In 2000, Jim Hart, a Canadian Alliance MP for the British Columbia riding of Okanagan-Coquihalla, gave up his seat for Day.

The RCMP then investigated a complaint that payment was offered to Hart in exchange for his resignation, a violation of the Criminal Code.

Canadian Alliance officials denied the allegation that Hart was induced to resign, saying Hart was compensated by the party for lost wages and not in exchange for his resignation. In 2001, the police force announced that it would not launch a formal criminal investigation.

At a news conference in Ottawa on Thursday, Holland said he was given documents anonymously earlier this week that indicate otherwise.

Holland says the documents show that Hart requested compensation totaling $22,674 in exchange for stepping down and that party officials and officials in Day’s office agreed in advance of Hart’s resignation to pay the compensation.

He quoted from one of the documents, a fax apparently sent by Hart to a senior party official, dated Aug. 22, 2000, that said: “Please realize that I took the step of resigning in good faith. I could have remained in office until the general election, finished my term and not experienced these losses. My resignation was contingent upon this negotiation.”

Holland said he gave the documents to the RCMP on Wednesday and he hopes they shed new light on the investigation closed six years ago.

From Garth Turner PC, MP's weblog
Garth Turner's Weblog

Some days I miss Mike Wilson. Some days I even miss Paul Martin. This would be one of them. The legacy of the resolute, deficit-wary, steady-as-she-goes, parsimonious great grey minister of finance has been shattered. Instead we have a jolly little spend-happy GO-train kind of guy delighted to blow the national wad on buying everyone in the house a few drinks. All he asks in return is that they vote for him. Oh yeah, and his friend, Steve.

Sadly I have to conclude that the Conservative Party has crapped out. Dead and gone. Blown off in a wave of tax-and-spendiness that would have put Wilson on Depends.

Jim Flaherty and his boss have gambled everything on the election they are planning to happen in the next few days or weeks. No - no election was contemplated today, as PMSH always knew the Bloc Quebecois could be bought off with $3 billion and change. No, the vote thing comes later – probably next week.

But of greater concern to all Canadians, at least it should be, is the fact the guys on the fiscal right have just flipped out. Totally. The Harper Tories are now in charge of the freest-spending federal government in history, and it hasn’t happened by accident. Federal spending in the year ending month will be a record at $223 billion including debt payments, and that jumps by twice the rate of inflation next year. In fact, one year from now program spending – which takes no debt interest at all into account – will pass $200 billion. Hell, if was only 18 months ago we were slagging Paul Martin for spending that much on all programs and all debt payments combined.

But it gets worse. Flaherty and Harper are handing over $39 billion in new money so that provincial governments can grow more bloated. They’re increasing spending on social programs by more than $4 billion a year, and hiking total spending by the equivalent of $5,800 for every citizen over the next 12 months.

The federal surplus is therefore planned to travel from $13 billion to just $300 million. If the economy slows (certain), or interest rates rise (count on that, too), or more manufacturing jobs are lost and government revenues fall (a given), then the itsy little surplus can yawn into a deficit very quickly. The national debt goes up, not down. The cupboard is bare. And it’s ooops time.

Maybe it’s just me, but when I was a conservative, or a Progressive Conservative, or even just a Conservative, the idea was to worry about long-term financial stability and try to resist being a hedonistic bobblehead. But now the Harper Cons have clearly made the decision to try and spend their way into a majority government by giving government money to anything that moves. Spending goes nuts, but what’s the legacy?

I guess it’s this – as I said a few hours ago – that really perplexes me.

Besides showering cash on Quebec and other levels of government, where the hell did that extra $13 billion go, and what do we get for locking ourselves into a national overhead of more than $200 billion a year?

No promised GST cut. No promised capital gains tax holiday. No broad-based income tax cut. No family income splitting. No climate change strategy to even try to achieve Kyoto. No great new national projects or legacies a generation can look back on and swell.

Worse, we’re doing nothing about the demographic time bomb of an aging population. Nothing about a national savings rate of zero. Nothing about $33,000 in average debt for each university grad. Nothing about the threat of higher inflation and higher interest rates that follow higher government spending. Nothing about getting less competitive or productive.

In fact, this budget will probably add to the financial stress of those “working families” all politicians like to talk about. Face it – the economic cycle has passed high noon. There simply aren’t enough people to keep buying houses from each other to push prices up forever. Half of the Boomers have no money saved for retirement. Higher inflation will cause higher mortgage rates and less family income. Manufacturing jobs are fleeing Canada for India and China. Wealth is being unevenly concentrated, thanks to resources. And so long as income taxes stay where they are, as Flaherty is counting on, then disposable incomes are going to fall – the inevitable result of free-spending, inflationary, live-for-the-moment politicians.

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All I can say is holy crap we went from a $13 billion dollar Liberal Surplus to a $300 million dollar Conservative surplus... wtf? WHERE ARE MY FISCAL CONSERVATIVES?!

oh yeah this Sunday my wife are going with some one of her coworkers, he's never been and neither has his wife (Japanese) and their son. It should be a culture shock for her.

I'm getting drunk on maple syrup.

Sorry I'm just that excited.

Guys, check this out! If you had your elantra on sept. 9, 2002, you are getting cash back!

http://www.leblogauto.com/2007/02/kia-et-h...-mensonges.html

Hyundai is giving money back for lying about the engine power output for pre 2002 elantras.

but you need to fill a claim form

http://www.thestar.com/News/article/184629

say hello to Dion's replacement and future Prime Minister...

First public speech (Father's eulogy, 2000):
http://archives.cbc.ca/IDC-1-69-307-1620-1...trudeau_eulogy/

For our American Friends some highlights of his Father's career:

Joseph Philippe Pierre Yves Elliott Trudeau, PC, CC, CH, QC, MA, LLD, FRSC [pjɛʀ ɛliʌt tʀydo] (October 18, 1919 – September 28, 2000) was the fifteenth Prime Minister of Canada from April 20, 1968 to June 4, 1979, and from March 3, 1980 to June 30, 1984.

His election campaign benefited from an unprecedented wave of personal popularity called "Trudeaumania", which saw Trudeau mobbed by throngs of youths. An iconic moment that influenced the election occurred on its eve, during the annual Saint-Jean-Baptiste Day parade in Montreal, when rioting Québec separatists threw rocks and bottles at the grandstand where Trudeau was seated. Rejecting the pleas of his aides that he take cover, Trudeau stayed in his seat, facing the rioters, without any sign of fear. The image of the young politician showing such courage impressed the Canadian people, and he handily won the election the next day.

As Prime Minister, Trudeau espoused participatory democracy as a means of making Canada a "Just Society." He vigorously defended the newly implemented universal health care and regional development programs as means of making society more just.

During the October Crisis of 1970, the Front de libération du Québec (FLQ) kidnapped British Trade Consul James Cross at his residence on the fifth of October. Five days later, Quebec Labour Minister Pierre Laporte was also kidnapped (and was later murdered, on October 17). Trudeau responded by invoking the War Measures Act, which gave the government sweeping powers of arrest and detention without trial. Although this response is still controversial and was opposed as excessive by figures like Tommy Douglas, it was met with only limited objections from the public. Trudeau presented a determined public stance during the crisis, answering the question of how far he would go to stop the terrorists with "Just watch me." Five of the FLQ terrorists were flown to Cuba in 1970 as part of a deal in exchange for James Cross' life, but all members were eventually arrested. The five flown to Cuba were jailed after they returned to Canada years later.

Trudeau was the first world leader to agree to meet John Lennon and his wife Yoko Ono on their 'tour for world peace'. Lennon said, after talking with Trudeau for 50 minutes, that Trudeau was "a beautiful person" and that "if all politicians were like Pierre Trudeau, there would be world peace."

On March 4, 1971, the Prime Minister married Margaret Sinclair, a woman who, at 22, was less than half Trudeau's age. They had three children and were the subject of enormous press coverage before their well-publicized legal separation in 1977. Their divorce was finalized in 1984.

In foreign affairs, Trudeau kept Canada firmly in the NATO Alliance, but often pursued an independent path in international relations. He made Canada the first western power to establish diplomatic relations with the People's Republic of China (to Richard Nixon's fury), and went on a state visit to Beijing. He was known to be a friend of Fidel Castro and Cuba.

Trudeau's outward actions during his premiership led many to believe he harboured republican notions; it was even rumoured by Paul Martin, Sr., that the Queen was worried the Crown "had little meaning for him." This may have had to do with the erasure of royal symbols, his documented antics around the Monarch, such as his sliding down Buckingham Palace banisters, and his famous pirouette behind the Queen, captured on film in 1977. He also glaringly breached protocol in 1978 when he was vacationing in Morocco, instead of in Canada to attend the Queen's arrival and departure.

The Liberal victory in 1980 highlighted a sharp geographical divide in the country: the party had won no seats west of Manitoba. Trudeau had to resort to having Senators appointed to Cabinet to ensure representation from all regions. The introduction of the National Energy Program (NEP) created a firestorm of protest in the Western provinces and increased what many termed "Western alienation." A series of difficult budgets by long-time loyalist Allan MacEachen in the early 1980s did not improve Trudeau's economic reputation.

Two very significant events for Canada occurred during Trudeau's final term in office. The first was the defeat of the referendum on Québec sovereignty, called by the Parti Québécois government of René Lévesque. In the debates between Trudeau and Levesque, Canadians were treated to a contest between two highly intelligent, articulate and bilingual politicians who, despite being bitterly opposed, were each committed to the democratic process.[5] Trudeau promised a new constitutional agreement with Québec should it decide to stay in Canada, and the "No" side (that is, No to sovereignty) ended up receiving around 60% of the vote.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070219/wl_nm/quebec_dc

I can't believe the Sepratists have a leg to stand on!
(and I am not talking about Bouchard -- I didn't realize that until later!)

What do you think?

Just me, I was lost but now I have a friend with a GPS and found my way back.

No big deal I know....... missed the community too much.

A Happy New Year to every one and your families.

Have a good 2007.



CC

Mandarin Ogilvie, 1137 Ogilvie Road, Gloucester, Ottawa.

Date change due to Ishtar not reading his calendar...

Well, Stephane Dion crushed Iggy today. What's your thoughts?

(for our American friends, the leader of Liberal party is not selected by primary, but by a party convention where delegates vote on ballots to select a leader. The selection of a new Liberal leader is particularly important, as Liberals up here generally end up being Prime Minister.)

Decided to post this in Canadian section, since there are no Princess Auto stores in States, yet

They have had OBD1 scanners there for a while, but last week I noticed a pile of OBD2
scanners for $198.

Pricey to just read one code sure, but if anyone is looking to get one, might be a good place to check out.

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentSe...ol=968793972154

Howee crap. This is not good news, and most certainly will add fuel to the Sepratist fires.... Next Alberta and surrounding region will want out too! or at least be recognized as a "nation". I don't like where this is going at all.

Thoughts?