What improvements do you want in the next gen Elantra?, maybe Hyundai will listen
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What improvements do you want in the next gen Elantra?, maybe Hyundai will listen
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Aug 7 2009, 12:10 AM
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Club Founder Group: Admin Posts: 21,359 Posts Per Day: 3.01 Thanks Received: 2809 Trader Stats: 16 (100%) Joined: 23-December 04 From: Maryland Member No.: 1 Mood: Okay |
So... basically the HD generation failed to attract the enthusiast crowd. The looks are pleasant enough but blah, the power and gas mileage are only "so-so". Unlike the previous XD gen few modders saw much potential.
Realistically, (afterall the Elantra is an economy car at heart) what changes and improvements would you like to see Hyundai make to the next Elantra? What would make you take notice and consider buying one? -------------------- |
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Aug 7 2009, 12:28 AM
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Poster Pro Group: Lifetimer Posts: 850 Posts Per Day: 0.15 Thanks Received: 21 Trader Stats: 4 (100%) Joined: 27-September 08 From: Baltimore Member No.: 6,555 Mood: Confident |
A true sport version in a hatch with at least 175hp might help most here. Im talking a GT with real GT qualities not interior upgrades but true performance with economy. Doing that at less cost then the Genesis coupe probably isnt realistic though.
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Aug 7 2009, 12:35 AM
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2004 Elantra GLS Group: Lifetimer Posts: 1,508 Posts Per Day: 0.21 Thanks Received: 0 Trader Stats: 1 (100%) Joined: 6-February 05 From: Albany, NY Member No.: 289 Mood: Refreshed |
I would like to see it with 15-20 more hp and, stylistically, more along the lines of the kia forte. Isn't the HD do for a facelift next model year?
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Aug 7 2009, 12:57 AM
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The teach Group: Lifetimer Posts: 6,786 Posts Per Day: 0.97 Thanks Received: 0 Trader Stats: 0 (0%) Joined: 24-February 05 From: Tacoma Member No.: 426 Mood: Calm |
After owning a HD, and driving a Mazda 3, a competitor to the FD, I think that the Elantra needs a 2.4 liter engine with a 5 speed automatic with shiftronic and a 5/6 speed manual. Suspension needs a complete overhaul. The Elantra suspension should make the car handle well in the corners; and have some adjustability in the alignment. Seating needs to be able to hold you in the seat better. The HD has seat adjustments for up/down and forward/back but not lumbar support, which other cars offer. A GT version should be a true GT, where upgraded suspension and drivetrain components are available including larger brakes, tire/rim sizes and other GT requirements. I think a GT sedan and hatch should be available. I did not like the fastback hatch, but something similar to the i30 hatch would be better.
A 2 liter engine does well; but the 2.4 liter engine would make the Elantra more competitive in the market and more comparable to other cars. Mazda offers 2 engines for the 3, a 2 liter I4 for a sedan and a 2.5 I4 for the S Touring and GT for the 2010 sedans, hatch and GT hatch. -------------------- "Childhood is measured by sounds and smells and sights before the dark hour of reason grows"
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Aug 7 2009, 06:53 AM
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Proud GLT Owner Group: Lifetimer Posts: 21,140 Posts Per Day: 3.02 Thanks Received: 633 Trader Stats: 3 (100%) Joined: 11-March 05 From: Brownsburg, IN Member No.: 532 Mood: Hyper |
See: Kia Forte SX.
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Aug 7 2009, 06:56 AM
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CarPuter Masta! Group: Lifetimer Posts: 6,363 Posts Per Day: 1.03 Thanks Received: 130 Trader Stats: 11 (100%) Joined: 23-June 07 From: Toronto, Canada Member No.: 4,300 Mood: Relaxed |
See: Kia Forte SX. Exactly what I was thinking.... it's got the looks, and got the power - all for the price under the Gen coupe; so it is possible -------------------- carPC Build Thread | My Elantra Site | My Fiero Site | My WebSite | Donate here to keep ElantraClub online and growing. |
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Aug 7 2009, 07:59 AM
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Nanomember Group: Lifetimer Posts: 7,787 Posts Per Day: 1.10 Thanks Received: 57 Trader Stats: 2 (100%) Joined: 27-January 05 From: College Park, MD Member No.: 106 Mood: Blah |
The 2.4L Forte SX needs some work in terms of throttle response and handling, I read, but it's a good start. I would bring over the i30 Hatchback to match the Wagon styling, do some work on the handling to offer a Sport version, and give us a Diesel engine choice. Ideally let people choose the current 2.0L Beta, a 2.0L Diesel for fuel economy and if possible a sportier engine choice like the 2.4L Theta or 2.0T from the Genesis.
They are planning the Veloster concept that they quote will have a 1.6L 140hp engine and achieve 40mpg, so that's a new engine to throw into the mix. Basically it'll be a 4-cylinder, and the Theta 2.4 and 2.0 are already in the Sonata, Tuscon and Genesis Coupe, so... put a Theta in an Elantra too. Or, if this 1.6L DI engine is coming, use that. I still think the Diesel should be introduced on many models: Elantra, Sonata, Tuscon, maybe even Santa Fe. -------------------- Help keep ElantraClub running and free for all Elantra owners: Donate.
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Aug 7 2009, 08:00 AM
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Proud GLT Owner Group: Lifetimer Posts: 21,140 Posts Per Day: 3.02 Thanks Received: 633 Trader Stats: 3 (100%) Joined: 11-March 05 From: Brownsburg, IN Member No.: 532 Mood: Hyper |
The Beta is done. Let it die. We already have the theta in 1.8/2.0/2.4 sizes. Let it be the choices. I do second the CRDi. I WOULD be buying a new car if they would bring us one.
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Aug 7 2009, 11:29 AM
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Power Poster Group: Members Posts: 393 Posts Per Day: 0.07 Thanks Received: 17 Trader Stats: 1 (100%) Joined: 5-February 09 From: Penasacola, FL Member No.: 6,893 |
It's time for them to finally up the horse power.
-------------------- 2004 Hyundai Elantra
K & N Filter, V Power NGK Sparkplugs, 8" Bazooka Tube, Clifford Matrix 12 Security System, Beltronics STI-R Remote Mount Radar Detector, Cheetah GPS Mirror, Clarion NX-602 GPS head unit, Sport Edition A10 wheels, Kumho Sense KR26 tires, Sensen struts, H & R Springs, 18mm Tiburon sway bar, Brakemotive rotors 1991 Mazda Miata Special Edition BRG '99 1.8L engine swap, Magnaflow Highflow Cat Converter 1995 Ford Ranger 3.0 5 Speed --------------------------------------- |
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Aug 7 2009, 11:58 AM
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2006 GLS Hatch Group: Lifetimer Posts: 6,747 Posts Per Day: 1.02 Thanks Received: 87 Trader Stats: 3 (100%) Joined: 29-March 06 From: Little Rock, AR Member No.: 2,051 Mood: Accomplished |
GLS sedan or wagon= Base (1.8l, cloth seats, basic basics) $15-16k
Limited sedan or wagon= Luxury GLS (2.0l, leather seats, Infinity stereo, wood trimmed interior) $17-18k GT sedan or hatch = Sporty GLS (2.4l, Sport bucket leather/cloth seats (like Gen coupe 2.0track), 6spd manual, Infinity stereo, aluminum trimmed interior) $18-20k And overall: Less of the roundy Carollaish look and a $2k diesel engine option for all models -------------------- |
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Aug 7 2009, 01:21 PM
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The teach Group: Lifetimer Posts: 6,786 Posts Per Day: 0.97 Thanks Received: 0 Trader Stats: 0 (0%) Joined: 24-February 05 From: Tacoma Member No.: 426 Mood: Calm |
The 2.4L Forte SX needs some work in terms of throttle response and handling, I read, but it's a good start. I would bring over the i30 Hatchback to match the Wagon styling, do some work on the handling to offer a Sport version, and give us a Diesel engine choice. Ideally let people choose the current 2.0L Beta, a 2.0L Diesel for fuel economy and if possible a sportier engine choice like the 2.4L Theta or 2.0T from the Genesis. They are planning the Veloster concept that they quote will have a 1.6L 140hp engine and achieve 40mpg, so that's a new engine to throw into the mix. Basically it'll be a 4-cylinder, and the Theta 2.4 and 2.0 are already in the Sonata, Tuscon and Genesis Coupe, so... put a Theta in an Elantra too. Or, if this 1.6L DI engine is coming, use that. I still think the Diesel should be introduced on many models: Elantra, Sonata, Tuscon, maybe even Santa Fe. A turbo version of the 2.4 would be better for some people. I would get rid of the wagon and have the i30 hatch with a 2.4 turbo. -------------------- "Childhood is measured by sounds and smells and sights before the dark hour of reason grows"
John Betjeman |
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Aug 7 2009, 02:35 PM
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Driving a Couch Group: Members Posts: 2,144 Posts Per Day: 0.33 Thanks Received: 1 Trader Stats: 3 (100%) Joined: 14-September 06 From: Southern Tier, NY Member No.: 2,715 Mood: Depressed |
Pretty much what all you folks said.
-------------------- Everything is good in moderation. Including moderation.
"You are young and there is only more to learn, how else can you truly understand how something works without breaking the absolute hell out of it ?" -shawn (sed) 1999 Hyundai Elantra (RIP) 1999 Hyundai Elantra (in the family) 2012 Chevrolet Cruze Eco (mine) 2009 Honda Fit Sport (wife's) |
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