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jrhale
Is there a Elantra Racing Club? If so, how does one join that club?
Bobzilla
What kind of racing?
CleanElantra
QUOTE (jrhale @ Aug 24 2006, 03:00 PM)
Is there a Elantra Racing Club?  If so, how does one join that club?
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I'd like to know.
But personally, I feel Elantras make crappy race cars. sad.gif
LateAPXR
^ why's that? I disagree myself.

Just check out Oiml8's car....not crappy at all.

besides...how much better can your sentra actually be? what makes IT such a great race car?

(just wondering...this isn't an attack)
oiml8
Who has raced an Elantra in road racing? No one I know. However, that doesn't make it a bad car. In fact I think it might do very well as long as you pick the right class. As for drag racing, who cares IMO. And autocross, well I think I can do very well in FSP with r compounds. I think the biggest drawback for our cars being competetive in street tires is because the tires get too hot. I tire with the right temp range will make it very tough to beat. We'll see next year anyway.
trololololo
there are a lot of hyundai clubs.. and i've seen hyundais in supposed 'race teams'...

but never have i seen a 'hyundai racing' team.

other than the old Hyundai Motorsports AWD White tibby from Canada in Rally.. but thats probably not something you were going for..
CleanElantra
QUOTE (LateAPXR @ Aug 24 2006, 09:25 PM)
^ why's that? I disagree myself.

Just check out Oiml8's car....not crappy at all.

besides...how much better can your sentra actually be? what makes IT such a great race car?

(just wondering...this isn't an attack)
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Let me start by saying the SE-R is no M3 but with mods it's pretty darn close (for a lot less money and prestige)

I wouldn't really know where to start to explain why. The SE-R has a better chassis, MUCH better engine (stock it revs to 7500rpm). I could go on for days.
Take each car stock for stock and the SE-R is faster, corners much better, lighter, stiffer chassis, WAY better brakes ect....
Yes, I'm sure the Elantra with EXTENSIVE mods can be a great track car but for the money you can start with a more race ready chassis. I even think the Civic is better. (I used to have one)
Plus the fact the SE-R has it's own race series must mean something. Here read up on it:

http://www.sercup.com/
http://www.nissanperformancemag.com/march02/ser_cup.shtml
http://www.nasaproracing.com/proracing/sr.html
http://www.sercup.com/resources/

I would be down right afraid to take my Elantra on a road course in stock form. I did take my SE-R on the track YEARS ago with just an inake, muffler and a crappy set of springs on the stock struts. I was nipping at the heals of a new (at the time 1999) well driven Corvette. The only place he could lose me was on the straits. Back in the turns I was up his ass!
Never would that happen in my Elantra. sad.gif
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QUOTE (oiml8 @ Aug 24 2006, 09:34 PM)
Who has raced an Elantra in road racing?  No one I know.  However, that doesn't make it a bad car.  In fact I think it might do very well as long as you pick the right class.  As for drag racing, who cares IMO.  And autocross, well I think I can do very well in FSP with r compounds.  I think the biggest drawback  for our cars being competetive in street tires is because the tires get too hot.  I tire with the right temp range will make it very tough to beat.  We'll see next year anyway.
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If I was only allowed to do one thing on the Elantra to make it road racing ready it would be the brakes. I have cooked mine on just some aggresive mountain road driving. The same roads I've done in my SE-R in stock form as well as my old '97 Civic Hatch.
Ctele02
well the reason you bought the elantra in the first place was cause it was a cheap economy car... the SE-R is the sportier version of the sentra the way the STI is the sportier version of the Impreza and the Evo to the Lancer and the SI to the Civic. Unfortunately Elantra has no "sportier" version since the GT isn't much of an upgrade from the GLS (in fact the hatch is said to handle worse than the sedan) However an SE-R sentra starts off a couple grand higher than the Elantra and so you're paying for that extra performance... if you put that couple grand into the Elantra as well you could prolly have a car on par to what that SE-R does stock.
Ishtar
Wait 'till you have to replace those brembos...

and if you didn't get them, enjoy eating brakes every 25k.

Not to mention the weight bias of the sentra is far more heavy to the front than the XD.

Oh, and the interior is a late 90's dungeon of hard plastic.
roydjt
CleanElantra, you can't compare a stock Elantra to an SE-R. My mom's 92 200sx hadles horribly compared to my Elantra, and it handled horribly compared to my 1985 Ford Escort. That's stock-for-stock, apples-to-apples.

Take an Elantra, with stiffer springs and struts, stiffer swaybar, larger, lightweight wheels and sticky tires, bigger rotors and better pads, and a powerchipped motor, and you might have a somewhat fair comparison. In that form, I would bet that the Elantra would give the SE-R a pretty good race.

-Roy
Ctele02
If you want to compare old elantras to your 94 sentra.. take into consideration that the old elantras (j1 generation) had many interchangeable parts to the mitsu evo/mirage so perhaps far more aftermarket than whatever we get in our XDs...
CleanElantra
QUOTE (Ishtar @ Aug 27 2006, 10:26 PM)
Wait 'till you have to replace those brembos...

and if you didn't get them, enjoy eating brakes every 25k.

Not to mention the weight bias of the sentra is far more heavy to the front than the XD.

Oh, and the interior is a late 90's dungeon of hard plastic.
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LateAPXR asked me about *MY* SE-R. It's a 1992.

Brembos? Not what I have: This is what I'm rollin on:




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QUOTE (Roydjt @ Aug 27 2006, 10:33 PM)
CleanElantra, you can't compare a stock Elantra to an SE-R.  My mom's 92 200sx hadles horribly compared to my Elantra, and it handled horribly compared to my 1985 Ford Escort.  That's stock-for-stock, apples-to-apples. 

Take an Elantra, with stiffer springs and struts, stiffer swaybar, larger, lightweight wheels and sticky tires, bigger rotors and better pads, and a powerchipped motor, and you might have a somewhat fair comparison.  In that form, I would bet that the Elantra would give the SE-R a pretty good race.   

-Roy
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Roy, no such thing as a '92 200SX tock.gif Do you mean 240SX? If so, you don't know what a good handling car is like. A 240 is RWD for starters. They handle AWESOME!! Even stock! Again, I've driven many of them stock and fully race preped.
All I have to say is I see Nissans at track events all the time. I have YET to see a Hyundai. Even a Tiburon. Don't get me wrong I love my Elantra and I would love to see/drive a track ready Elantra! However the Elantra chassis isn't up to the hard vigors of road racing without extensive mods so they just aren't popular.
Oh and do the mods you mentioned to a Sentra and you'll have a REAL sick race car!
I'm curious about the "powerchipped motor" Where does one get this chip?
ricerrx7
QUOTE (CleanElantra @ Aug 29 2006, 07:20 PM)
Roy, no such thing as a '92 200SX tock.gif

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_...=en&cardist=603
CleanElantra
QUOTE (ricerrx7 @ Aug 29 2006, 08:24 PM)


Good search there bud! other-checkitout.gif rofl.gif rofl.gif withstupidsmiley.gif
That's an NX2000!
Let me explain this to you the best way I can. It's the rare Hatchback version of the B13 (chassies code) SE-R.
Back to SKOOL for you. signs-groan.gif
I know this for a fact: I used to have one.

Old pic of my two B13's side by side.

KeWLKaT
^ i validate that, it IS a NX2000 wink.gif
alienman
QUOTE (CleanElantra @ Aug 29 2006, 08:20 PM)
Roy, no such thing as a '92 200SX tock.gif


not to be a trouble maker but here....

http://members.lycos.nl/kenji100nx/twodescphotos.html

http://www.cars-directory.net/gallery/niss...x_618064_p.html
Ishtar
QUOTE (alienman @ Aug 30 2006, 02:17 AM)


That's the 240SX stateside and in Canuckistan.
alienman
well how come there they have both and we only got one.... i feel cheated again...
ricerrx7
QUOTE (CleanElantra @ Aug 29 2006, 07:35 PM)
That's an NX2000!

My bad, I guess I'm not the nissan guru that you are. I just did a search for 1992 200sx and that showed up.
joehyundai
Who says the elantra isn't a good race car? I have won my class with this one...


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J-son
Correct me wrong, but doesn't the Korean guys road race elantras? I now they do and I am sure KDMGuy knows some of them.

The Elantra has the ability to be a road course car. Might not win events, but it could hold its own.

Someday when I don't have other priorities, like house payment and that, I will have a road course Elantra. smile.gif Someday...

BTW: Nice Nissan's! smile.gif

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