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> Removing swirls by hand
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post May 11 2006, 07:17 AM
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QUOTE (Mia_D @ May 10 2006, 11:22 PM)
Please read this andit should help you tremendously. from a previous thread by applies so aptly here.....
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OK...You have decided on a Product....Without technique you may be very disappointed. So....here is my only suggestion......Please study this article.....Use the PlastX with the same technique.....In lieu of the foam applicator pad....I would use high grade brand of 100% cotton towels....Not Cheapos! Roll a smaller towel up very tight....now roll the towel you intend to put the product on around the smaller "inside" towel.....You now have some density to your towel.....Put on the chemical and begin rubbing in small tight motions....I would rub against the grain of the scratches.....Rub linearly...up/down, left to right, right to left, also same motions on a diagonal....by doing this you assure full coverage to the scratches and the lens.
Using Scratch X by Hand

Here is the LINK i was looking for earlier! Please read this as well......Remove swirls by Hand

Do not give up.....Repeat the process.....When to add more chemical.....well....it will blend in after a while.....use your eyes and "feel" before stopping.....by using a bit of PASSION and your arms legs and shoulders....rub and you will be generating a surprising amount of heat from your cotton towel. Cotton has a bit more bit and will generate more heat by hand than a foam applicator.

Keep repeating until you are satisfied.....One or two passes may not make a dent....do not give up....actually as you take scratches off initially it may look worse due to a strange fact. As you take off the smaller scratches the larger deeper ones remain....you now have to repeat the process until satisfied.....

Also - go into this with realistic expectations....PICS would help so much in assisting you. however.....take your fingernail and run it across the scratches.....does it "fall" into any areas? these places may not see the removal as you may like as they are very deep.......you must be careful with deep scratches if you were using a rotary because it could burn the film layer right off the plastic if the scratch was to deep.

Good Luck....READ!!!! before you work up a sweat.....it will benefit your results.

so many times people ask "what's best product"....but in actuality the TECHNIQUE is so much more inportant than the chemical....add a good chemical with great technique and you can make some $$~~~~~

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Unless you have experience on a Rotary you may be creating much more damage than taking out your swirls. Also you must watch for high points due to these areas having less paint. Well actually they are weaker areas and the paint is more fragile here than on the flat surfaces of the hood.á Most experienced detailers do not take their DA above 1500 unless there is a specific purpose. Judging by your question regarding 3000 rpm I gather you may not have any experience. You must be knowledgeable about paint, the correct pads, and chemicals to use......Please reconsider if you have not purchased already. If you have I suggest getting a hood from the salvage yard and Practice, Practice, Practice......It is not rocket science and you will get the feel.....but getting the feel on your vehicle with no experience would notá be adviseable.......

you can burn through the paint within a second without knowing what you are doing. you can rid your car's surface of swirls by polishing and using excellent technique. This comes with experience.

I have hand detailed cars using the methods of Mike Phillips at Meguiar's. It works. He is a master detailer and remember to use enough product nad a bit of PASSION!

Old Skool out.......


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post May 11 2006, 08:12 AM
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Thanks for the info, I have not purchased the rotary so this seems like it will be the route I take. Since I am a master procrastinator I make no promises on timelines but I will post before and after pics.

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post Sep 23 2011, 02:52 AM
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I really wish there was a class or someone I could go to, to help me with this... I think I have an awful technique! biggrin.gif My Elantra is getting to the point where I cant stand looking at it in the sun light. (It's probably not as bad as bad as it sounds)

Great help though!


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QUOTE (elantraelite @ Sep 23 2011, 03:52 AM) *
I really wish there was a class or someone I could go to, to help me with this... I think I have an awful technique! biggrin.gif My Elantra is getting to the point where I cant stand looking at it in the sun light. (It's probably not as bad as bad as it sounds)

Great help though!



All you have to do is to click onto Autopia or Auto Geek and go to the forums. I took six days off the week before Labor day and went to the races on both weekends. During the weekdays I Detailed all three of the family cars and got sore in places that should never get sore.

There are people on both forums who will answer any and all of your questions about anything having to do with exterior and interior care and these people range from people who do it for a hobby to those who make a living at that profession.

As a result of my reading many of the post and asking a couple of questions I have (1) Found out a lot about deep cleaning carpet and floor mats. (2) Found the reasons why there are several different types of correction chemicals, polish, cleaner wax and final wax. (3) Decided to purchase a Porter Cable 7424 XP buffer and best of all (4) Found a Forum member less than 15 miles from me who has invited me over to his house to show me how he does his Detail Job.


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QUOTE (Mayberryman @ Sep 23 2011, 07:46 PM) *
All you have to do is to click onto Autopia or Auto Geek and go to the forums. I took six days off the week before Labor day and went to the races on both weekends. During the weekdays I Detailed all three of the family cars and got sore in places that should never get sore.

There are people on both forums who will answer any and all of your questions about anything having to do with exterior and interior care and these people range from people who do it for a hobby to those who make a living at that profession.

As a result of my reading many of the post and asking a couple of questions I have (1) Found out a lot about deep cleaning carpet and floor mats. (2) Found the reasons why there are several different types of correction chemicals, polish, cleaner wax and final wax. (3) Decided to purchase a Porter Cable 7424 XP buffer and best of all (4) Found a Forum member less than 15 miles from me who has invited me over to his house to show me how he does his Detail Job.

I have one of these as well (guess I should write a review, lol). With my black car, I had to finally do something about the swirls. I bought Mothers clay bar kit and three step wax system (pre-wax cleaner/glaze/final wax). After washing, I clay'd the car. Then I went over the whole car with Turtlewax polishing compound (see review section about their rubbing/polishing compounds). That took the majority of the swirls out using the (I think) orange pad. THen I used the white pad for the pre wax cleaner, black for the glaze, and blue for the final wax. While not perfect (partly due to the original orange peel paint and 150,000 miles) the car looks almost new.

Took me 6.5 hours and I was pretty sore the next day. Cannot imagine trying to do it by hand. It is money well spent to pick up a quality buffer and pads.


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I have found a great product to use by hand is Meiguires ultimate compound. You do have to put elbow grease into it on the more subborn cob webbings but it does remove them, Great product!


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