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post Jan 28 2010, 08:46 AM
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So I have been thinking about this for a while, and I'm still not sure how well this will go over with the finance manager. BUT..... I've had a vision of Porky gutted, caged and prepped for SCCA Club Racing in Improved Touring A (ITA) class. I think the stiff structure, the simplicity of it's suspension, the ruggedness of the car overall would do well in this sport.

WHAT IT WOULD TAKE

It would need to be gutted and caged for obvious reasons, a firesupression system, race seat and harness and a door net. suspension would need a set of Koni inserts and some ground control coilovers with 7" race springs. Upper pillowball mounts to get complete camber/caster adjustment, rear lower adjustable arms. Rear disc swap and some Hawk Blue pads and Motul fluid with stainless lines. Engine would be cleaned, head milled, block decked, light port/polish and a 3-angle valve job. 4-1 header, 2.25" exhaust with no cats, a magnaflow 2.5" straight through muffler and a side turnout in front of hte passenger rear tire All this controlled with a Megasquirt EM system, hopefully putting out somewhere in the neighborhood of 150-160 at the front wheels and about 2500lbs with driver.

Now, will it happen? Likely not. But this is my last dream for the car. It's more likely to spend the next 5-6 years being pounded into the ground as a super reliable daily driver instead. With the Swift, the wife was not real receptive to the idea at all! laugh.gif


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post Jan 28 2010, 09:36 AM
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That'd be cool, but why stop there? G Production (or wherever Porky might fall) would be even more fun, and the Limited Prep rules would mean it's still eligible for ITA.


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post Jan 28 2010, 09:39 AM
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I think last hurrah would just be a N/A high compression beast good for about 190whp and just take it to HPDE's.


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post Jan 28 2010, 09:59 AM
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Too bad it would cost thousands to be able to send some power to the rear wheels...


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post Jan 28 2010, 10:20 AM
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No need. The car is really pretty well balanced. What slows it down on a small auto-x course are benefits on a road course. It's stable, turns in well and can handle some massive tires (think 245's with the fender lips flare a touch).


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Good luck man.


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QUOTE (Tom06 @ Jan 28 2010, 05:59 AM) *
Too bad it would cost thousands to be able to send some power to the rear wheels...


When does it ever not take thousands to make any car get better power to the rear wheels? Even a 91 miata takes 2k for the kit and tune.


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post Jan 28 2010, 12:41 PM
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unless you are trying to be different or just really love the elantra platform it's not worth it. the chassis will not be competitive (especially if you go into mod classes). it will be far cheaper (unless you do ALL the work) to buy a used prepped car. there are lots fully prepped of older civics and miata race cars for sale which will be much cheaper and far more competitive.


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post Jan 28 2010, 12:49 PM
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I would suggest some reading up on Club Racing. IT classes offer great opportunities at a nice entry level cost. Neons and Sentra's are quite competitive cars. The Elantra offers a lot of the same benefits of the neon, minus the factory backing in SSB back in the day, only with a stiffer platform to start form.

Of course I do all the work myself, I have for decades. Literally. Hell, at 16 I had to repair a car so I could drive it. I have someone for cage work, petitioning the CRB for a class is not that difficult, especially when you can provide solid numbers. A 2500-2600lbs (w/driver) Elantra would compete quite well with SOHC Neon weighing in at 2650 with driver. Similar power, similar chassis setups, similar weights.....

Again, this is likely not how the car will see it's end, but if I get the chance it will.


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post Jan 28 2010, 01:47 PM
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QUOTE (Shadowhawk @ Jan 28 2010, 12:25 PM) *
When does it ever not take thousands to make any car get better power to the rear wheels? Even a 91 miata takes 2k for the kit and tune.


I thought that the Miata has always been RWD? I was talking about a hacked together RWD conversion, like some people have done with Civics.


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QUOTE (Tom06 @ Jan 28 2010, 09:47 AM) *
I thought that the Miata has always been RWD? I was talking about a hacked together RWD conversion, like some people have done with Civics.


eh... Why would you ever want to put that much work into the Elantra? If you want a rwd spendin 1.2k on a miata and spend the rest from the trade in to get the turbo and internals. The elantra is an eco car. Few have ventured to make it a racer. Mostly Koreans.


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post Jan 28 2010, 02:04 PM
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My opinion on converting FWD to RWD: If you want a RWD car, buy a RWD car. There is a ton of engineering behind a vehicle, and to start changing things in this massive of a fashion is just plain silly to me.

In case many of you forgot, this platform has already been roadraced. Hyundai of Canada actually ran both the RD and GK Tibs in the Koni Grand Am series in the early 2000's quite successfully. Considering the RD, XD and GK are all on the same platform, there's not much left to figure out.


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