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Shadowhawk
post Jan 28 2010, 02:09 PM
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YEAH! It wasn't me this time. Bobzilla speaks the truth. They have an accent out there right now that is rally racing and is smoking the comp. Same with a tib. Cars that are made FWD should stay FWD. You don't see people taking the early Evo's that where FWD and making them RWD? They still make killer times on the track. They are made for a reason, not so someone can just hack and slash and get it switched.

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post Jan 28 2010, 02:12 PM
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QUOTE (Shadowhawk @ Jan 28 2010, 01:59 PM) *
eh... Why would you ever want to put that much work into the Elantra? If you want a rwd spendin 1.2k on a miata and spend the rest from the trade in to get the turbo and internals. The elantra is an eco car. Few have ventured to make it a racer. Mostly Koreans.


#1, decent Miatae are hard to find under $2500.
Letter A.) I would be putting it into a Club racing class, and turbo's on non-turbo cars is sub a) retarded because of their unreliability and sub B) not allowed in ANY class.
III.) If I wanted something like that, I'll just cage the swift and run it in ITB and be done.

FOLKS: Pay attention to this paragraph. I do not want a Miata. this is not about whether it's feasible, doable or worth it. I do not care if you don't like my end dream for the car, go find your own. This is not about converting an Elantra to rwd, it's not about honda's, toyota's or anythign other than gutting caging and road racing in a legal sanctioning body's race organization, most specifically the SCCA's Club Racing program. Got it?


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post Jan 28 2010, 02:15 PM
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I wasn't talking to you about the miata.. was talking to tom6. gah! I know what you where talking about. Just Tom6 was shooting at something that is easily achieved by cheaper cars. You do what you do best.


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OK what a bout a Toyota or Honda...?










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post Jan 28 2010, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE (Shadowhawk @ Jan 28 2010, 02:09 PM) *
YEAH! It wasn't me this time. Bobzilla speaks the truth. They have an accent out there right now that is rally racing and is smoking the comp. Same with a tib. Cars that are made FWD should stay FWD. You don't see people taking the early Evo's that where FWD and making them RWD? They still make killer times on the track. They are made for a reason, not so someone can just hack and slash and get it switched.

Cheap if you want AWD:
Talon
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Cheap FWD:
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My gawd.... please stop posting. I mean that. No DSM was ever "cheap". They were piles of poo when pushed, could make great power when built properly, but that meant $$$.

Miatae were ONLY EVER RWD. Most were 1wd.

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OK what a bout a Toyota or Honda...?










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post Jan 28 2010, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE (Bobzilla @ Jan 28 2010, 10:17 AM) *
My gawd.... please stop posting. I mean that. No DSM was ever "cheap". They were piles of poo when pushed, could make great power when built properly, but that meant $$$.

Miatae were ONLY EVER RWD. Most were 1wd.


B) learn first who I'm talking to. Then tell me to stop posting. Was ONCE AGAIN! Talking to the other guy. Not you. ffs. And yes DSM's do break down a lot. but have been proven to do well on the track if done right. I've seen them here in Ak at our local track.

And since you are hell bent on miata's after I said I was talking to the other guy on a cheap project. They are found here in Ak for really cheap. One was selling his for 1.2k on AKMS.
I'm done with this lol. Getting old really fast.


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post Jan 28 2010, 03:35 PM
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Haha guys, sorry for throwing out my RWD Elantra idea. It wasn't meant to be too serious and would be a waste of $.


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post Jan 28 2010, 03:38 PM
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I don't think our Alaskan friend has any idea what my opening post was really about. 1/4 mile in a straight line is not a "track" to me. It's the beginning of a nice straight away that should be followed by a nice left (or right) turn leading into a series of esses.... Turbo AWD DSM's are not "good" on that type of track for a budget minded racer. Ever.


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post Jan 28 2010, 03:47 PM
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I think the XD is too heavy for this. Do you remember what Jay got with his weight reduction experiment?

You forgot to include the J2 in the similar platform catagory. Now those are really 2,650 lbs.


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post Jan 28 2010, 04:07 PM
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Yep, he was down to about 2500lbs IIRC with him and no interior. I'd be at or even lower than as I couldn't have the door trim panels he was using, nor the airbags or pretensioning seatbelts. For a true ITA build I think you could squeeze her down to 2650 with a 200lb driver.


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QUOTE (Bobzilla @ Jan 28 2010, 01:07 PM) *
Yep, he was down to about 2500lbs IIRC with him and no interior. I'd be at or even lower than as I couldn't have the door trim panels he was using, nor the airbags or pretensioning seatbelts. For a true ITA build I think you could squeeze her down to 2650 with a 200lb driver.


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post Jan 28 2010, 04:17 PM
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i'll have to lose about 20lbs myself to get to that weight!


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