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Posted by: mkaresh Mar 9 2008, 10:33 AM

A year or so ago the admin here sticked a thread about TrueDelta's reliability research. I'm very grateful for his support. But perhaps too few people look at the stickies here, but we still do not have enough Elantras signed up to include any model year in the main survey.

The main advantages of this research: post actual problem rates, updated four times a year, and the results are all free to participants.

For the details, and to help get the Elantra included:

http://www.truedelta.com/reliability.php

Posted by: LDub Mar 9 2008, 01:29 PM

Everyone here already knows that Elantras are the most awesome and reliable cars ever made, so there's no need to have a third-party tell us what we already know...

Posted by: mkaresh Mar 9 2008, 01:56 PM

I have found that my research is most popular among people who don't already know everything

Posted by: LDub Mar 9 2008, 02:44 PM

I was just kidding. I think it'd be great to get some more Elantras on board with your site.

Posted by: xdforme22 Mar 9 2008, 03:04 PM

I signed up a while ago

Posted by: mkaresh Mar 9 2008, 06:34 PM

If I wasn't so damn tired I'd probably find it more humorous. Problem is, I've heard similar lines too many times from people who weren't kidding!

Posted by: mkaresh Apr 5 2008, 01:14 PM

Closer, but still not there.

To help get your year included:

http://www.truedelta.com/reliability.php

Posted by: mkaresh May 2 2008, 11:26 AM

With a total of 140 owners signed up, many years are close, but none are quite there.

Help make this happen:

http://www.truedelta.com/reliability.php

Posted by: mkaresh May 30 2008, 01:17 PM

Up to 155 total now, and many model years are only 4-5 owners short of the minimum.

To help get your year over the top:

http://www.truedelta.com/reliability.php

Posted by: blupupher May 30 2008, 01:56 PM

Well, I enrolled like 3 years ago, so I am still waiting for others.

Posted by: mkaresh Jun 26 2008, 12:04 PM

I'm very sorry about this...currently you and 162 others.

I've gone ahead and included the 2005, 2007, and 2008 in the survey, though they are still one to three cars short of the minimum.

The 2002 and 2003 are each only four cars short...just need a few more owners to step up.

http://www.truedelta.com/reliability.php

Posted by: Silent Wolf Jun 26 2008, 11:33 PM

Let it go man. Tired of seeing this thread pop up!

Posted by: mkaresh Jul 22 2008, 01:28 PM

Sorry to annoy you--but the thread does just pop up once a month.

Each time more people sign up. A fourth model year--2003-- has been included in the survey. And the 2002 is very close, so it'll probably be added next month.

Tha more participants there are, the better the information that will result.

http://www.truedelta.com/reliability.php

Posted by: mkaresh Aug 18 2008, 02:18 PM

The 2002 is now also included, for a total of five model years. Compared to zero a few months ago--major progress.

All years remain close to the minimum sample size, though, so additional participants would certainly help.

http://www.truedelta.com/reliability.php

Posted by: Krad Aug 22 2008, 12:19 AM

I added a 2004 and would be more than happy to fill out any surveys.

Posted by: mkaresh Sep 17 2008, 02:17 PM

Thanks, I appreciate it.

Thanks to people here, we've been able to add most recent model years to the survey, and others are close.

It remains to be seen how many model years will make it into the November results.

Help get your year included:

http://www.truedelta.com/reliability.php

Posted by: mkaresh Oct 14 2008, 12:43 PM

The 2007 is a single response short of the bare minimum, while the 2008 will definitely be in the November results. Data collection began more recently for other years, so they'll be in the February set.

Additional participants remain needed for all model years.

http://www.truedelta.com/reliability.php

Posted by: mkaresh Nov 29 2008, 02:12 PM

Updated results recently posted. Hyundai Elantra reliability, in terms of successful repair trips per 100 vehicles per year:

2007: 57, about average

2008: 54, about average

The sample sizes are small, but that the results are so close together suggests that they are reasonably accurate.

Additional participants would be helpful for all model years. The larger the sample size, the more information we can provide.

For the full set of results, and to sign up to help:

http://www.truedelta.com/latest_results.php

Posted by: EeeGeeTee Nov 29 2008, 06:31 PM

I just signed up. My old 2002 was great. I hope the same with my "new" 04 GT!

Posted by: mkaresh Jan 4 2009, 11:44 AM

Updated results recently posted. Hyundai Elantra reliability, in terms of successful repair trips per 100 vehicles per year:

2007: 57, about average

2008: 54, about average

The sample sizes are small, but that the results are so close together suggests that they are reasonably accurate.

There will be another update about a month from now. Additional participants would be helpful for all model years. The larger the sample size, the more information we can provide.

For the full set of results, and to sign up to help:

http://www.truedelta.com/latest_results.php

Posted by: mkaresh Feb 2 2009, 10:47 AM

Updated results with additional model years this week. Barely managed a partial result with the 2005, and in general additional participants would be very helpful.

http://www.truedelta.com/reliability.php

Posted by: Spectre Feb 12 2009, 11:38 AM

I just enrolled my Elantra. Glad to be of help.

Posted by: mkaresh Feb 13 2009, 12:43 PM

I post here with the permission of the admin, and refer visitors to my site back to this forum in addition to posting the results here. Speaking of which...

We have updated results for the Elantra. In terms of successful repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2008: 48, about average, not far from "better than average"

2007: 45, small sample size, but very similar to the result for the 2008

2005: 95, about average for this year, very small sample size though

A big thanks to everyone who has been helping. We'll have further updates in May, August, and November. With more participants, we could provide more precise information and cover all model years.

We now have a separate results page for each model that includes the results for competitors. The page for the Elantra:

http://www.truedelta.com/car-reliability.php?stage=pt&bd=Hyundai&mc=119&email=Guest

Posted by: mkaresh Apr 23 2009, 12:32 PM

Updated results in May. 288 Elantras signed up so far. A very good start, but more remain needed to cover all years from 1995 on.

http://www.truedelta.com/reliability.php

Posted by: mkaresh May 25 2009, 01:34 PM

We have updated results for the Elantra. In terms of successful repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2008: 39, about average, but close to "better than average"

2007: 43, small sample size, but very similar to the 2008 result, reinforcing it

2005: 73, about average

2003: 82, about average

2002: 179, much worse than average--with larger sample size might be lower

Sample sizes are small for all but the 2008.

A big thanks to this forum and everyone who has been helping. We'll have further updates in August and November. With more participants, we could provide more precise information and cover all model years.

http://www.truedelta.com/car-reliability.php?stage=pt&bd=Hyundai&mc=119&email=Guest

Posted by: mkaresh Jun 28 2009, 10:13 AM

316 Elantra owners now signed up. A good start, but more are needed to provide precise results for all model years.

http://www.truedelta.com/reliability.php

Posted by: mkaresh Jul 28 2009, 09:19 AM

Updated results next month. A few model years are just a couple responses short of the minimum, so additional participants would be very helpful.

http://www.truedelta.com/reliability.php

Posted by: mkaresh Aug 27 2009, 11:30 AM

Updated results next week (delayed a bit--wife insisted on a vacation this year).

343 owners now signed up, plus another dozen for the Touring. The more owners participate, the better the information we can provide to everyone.

http://www.truedelta.com/reliability.php

Posted by: mkaresh Sep 30 2009, 12:30 PM

We have updated results for the Elantra to include owner experiences through June 2009. In terms of successful repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2008: 34, better than average

2007: 36, better than average

2005: 86, about average

2003: 91, about average, small sample size

2002: 155, worse than average, small sample size

A big thanks to everyone who has been helping. We'll have further updates in November and February. With more participants, we could provide more precise information.

http://www.truedelta.com/car-reliability.php?stage=pt&bd=Hyundai&mc=119&email=Guest

Posted by: mkaresh Nov 2 2009, 12:56 PM

Updated results again later this month.

We're going to start providing new stats for the odds of requiring no repairs and the odds of getting a lemon. These require larger sample sizes, so additional participants would be helpful.

For the details, and to sign up:

http://www.truedelta.com/reliability.php

Posted by: mkaresh Dec 11 2009, 09:45 AM

We have updated results for the Elantra to include owner experiences through September 30, 2009. In terms of successful repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2008: 28, better than average

2007: 41, better than average

2005: 80, about average

2003: 83, about average, small sample size

2002: 156, worse than average, small sample size

A big thanks, once again, to everyone who has been helping. We'll have further updates in February and May. With more participants, we could provide more precise information.

http://www.truedelta.com/car-reliability.php?stage=pt&bd=Hyundai&mc=119&email=Guest

Posted by: mkaresh Jan 15 2010, 11:38 AM

367 Elantra owners now signed up. A good start, but more are needed to provide precise results for all model years from 1995 on.

Not yet signed up? Details here:

http://www.truedelta.com/reliability.php

Posted by: mkaresh Feb 19 2010, 12:24 PM

We have updated results for the Elantra to include owner experiences through December 31, 2009. In terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2009: 53, about average, small sample size

2008: 21, better than average

2007: 50, about average

2005: 84, about average

2003: 67, better than average, small sample size

2002: 157, worse than average, small sample size

A big thank you, once again, to everyone who has been helping. We'll have further updates in May and August. With more participants, we could provide more precise information and cover all model years.

http://www.truedelta.com/car-reliability.php?stage=pt&bd=Hyundai&mc=119&email=Guest

Posted by: mkaresh Mar 25 2010, 10:57 AM

Continue to especially need more 2009s and 2010s.

Posted by: NevynPA Mar 25 2010, 11:22 AM

I'm in on it now too.

Posted by: mkaresh Apr 28 2010, 11:22 AM

To provide an additional benefit, I recently enhanced the related repair history survey so that it can (optionally) be used as a personal car maintenance record for cars 2000 MY and newer.

As always, more participants would be helpful. Updated Car Reliability Survey results in May.

http://www.truedelta.com/reliability.php

Posted by: mkaresh Jun 3 2010, 09:25 AM

We have updated results for the Elantra to include owner experiences through March 31, 2010. In terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2009: 62, about average

2008: 22, better than average

2007: 49, about average

2005: 71, about average

2004: 50, better than average

2003: 90, about average

2002: 149, worse than average

2001: 147, worse than average

Small sample sizes for the 2001-2004 and 2009.

A big thank you, once again, to everyone who has been helping. We'll have further updates in August and November. With more participants, we could provide more precise information and cover all model years.

http://www.truedelta.com/car-reliability.php?stage=pt&bd=Hyundai&mc=119&email=Guest

Posted by: Tom06 Jun 3 2010, 10:53 AM

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Posted by: mkaresh Jul 11 2010, 11:01 AM

This coming week we'll start previewing the next set of results to participants. The preview results will be updated as responses come in.

We're working towards providing full results for all model years from 1995 on--just a matter of getting enough owners involved.

To help provide the best possible information on your year:

http://www.truedelta.com/reliability.php

Posted by: mkaresh Aug 19 2010, 09:11 AM

We have updated results for the Elantra to include owner experiences through June 30, 2010.

Other sources of car reliability information won't cover the more recent months until the summer or even fall of next year.

In terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2009: 51, about average

2008: 18, better than average

2007: 55, about average

2005: 58, about average

2004: 42, better than average

2003: 68, better than average

2002: 164, worse than average

2001: 66, worse than average

Small sample sizes for the 2001-2004 and 2006.

Thank you, once again, to this forum and everyone who has been helping. We'll have further updates in November and February. With more participants, we could provide more precise information and cover all model years.

To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help:

http://www.truedelta.com/car-reliability.php?stage=pt&bd=Hyundai&mc=119

Posted by: Bobzilla Aug 19 2010, 09:43 AM

I've tried numerous times to add updates.... but the site is so complex and un-intuitive that nothing I do seems to add anything. Making hte site easier would certainly help getting information in.

Posted by: mkaresh Aug 19 2010, 11:54 AM

I'd very much like to do this--but have had trouble getting usefully detailed feedback. It would be very helpful to get more details from you. Can you contact me?

http://www.truedelta.com/contact.php

Posted by: Bobzilla Aug 19 2010, 12:20 PM

Last time I did that I ended up with spam out the wazzoo.... nothing like 5 emails a day.

Posted by: mkaresh Aug 19 2010, 01:04 PM

So we've been through this before? I'm sorry for not remembering the specific conversation.

If we were having a conversation via email, where I was trying to learn what I could do to improve the site for you, does that really warrant the term spam?

If I could read your mind or otherwise figure out what you were looking for without burdening you with the task of communication, I would. But as much as I wish I could, I can't.

It's not just you. I can't read my wife's mind either

On a serious note, you're far from the first person to say that the site is too hard to use. Other people find it easy to use, but I wish more people did. Different people use the site in different ways, and the current site design clearly only works well for some people.

The problem is, while people can easily tell me that they find the site too difficult, no one seems capable of providing me with information specific enough to act upon.

It'd be like sending a letter to Hyundai saying you don't like how a car drives, and you'll only buy one if they make it drive better. What could they do with that amount of information?

Posted by: Bobzilla Aug 19 2010, 01:36 PM

I think the constant bombardment of spam mail every day is enough to turn one off of the site. Idon't need to be reminded 5 times a day, every day that I need to submit info...

Posted by: NevynPA Aug 20 2010, 06:37 AM

Bob, I'm not sure what happened with you getting "spammed" by the site. I get an email once a MONTH tops (maybe every other month) asking me to submit if I've had repairs. About a week or so goes by, and I get a second email saying the results are up.

I've never had anything like 5 emails a day.

Posted by: mkaresh Aug 20 2010, 08:07 AM

I think he means that he contacted me earlier trying to help explain the problems he had with the site, and I replied to his email asking for further clarification, to which he tried to respond, and so forth for five rounds. So five personal emails in a short period of time.

Although this is just a guess. He might be referring to the perceived frequency of the regular emails. People who sign up to participate, then don't, get more frequent reminders that you've never seen.

Posted by: Bobzilla Aug 20 2010, 08:37 AM

No, I got "reminders" 5 times a day. Spam. Not personal emails. SPAM. UNSOLICITED EMAIL. 5. Times. A. Day.

I don't know how to make this any more clear.

Posted by: mkaresh Aug 20 2010, 09:04 AM

Sorry, I missed this earlier. This is clear, and clearly inaccurate. Maybe you like to exaggerate, or maybe you really remember it this way.

None of the email was unsolicited. You signed up to participate in the survey, which was clearly described to involve receiving email.

You then did not participate in the survey you signed up to participate in. Nor did you contact me to unsubscribe. So you received reminders that participants were not sent.

There might be a couple of these in the same week if it's the very end of the quarter, and especially if we're just short of the minimum sample size, but not more than one in the same day. And usually not more than one every week or two.

People who respond regularly are only sent the one email a month NevynPA describes, with a reply usually only needed every third month (following the end of the quarter). These people clearly do not need the reminders, so aren't sent them.

My advice, to anyone: if you're not going to participate, then don't sign up to participate.

But I do hope that people who would like to help, and who do have the few minutes each quarter this requires, will sign up.

The process is described here:

http://www.truedelta.com/reliability.php

Posted by: Bobzilla Aug 20 2010, 09:11 AM

So, you want people to participate in your survey, then call them liars? Nice.

I recieved an AVERAGE of 5 spam emails a day for 3 weeks. I had to add the sender to the spam email list.

Now, you can believe me or not, I don't care. I'm telling you what happened. Call me a liar on a public foru all you want, it makes you look AWESOME.

wHAT i find hilarious is that this "survey" shows the 2002 Elantra to be below average.... when it was one of the strongest years for Hyundai in terms of dealer visits and repairs done under warranty. Not that this is flawed as hell or anything.

I love this:

I tried submitting about 6 different times before I gave up. Every time I would "submit" it would cylce back that I left information out, or was incomplete but would not tell me WHERE. After spending too much time trying to make it "happy" I said screw it. So as far as I'm concerned you can take your spam, your crappy site and your terrible attitude somewhere else.

Posted by: popeye Aug 20 2010, 09:51 AM

Bob, I don't see him calling you a liar per se, so in the interest of forum etiquette please refrain from using the term. BTW you can unsubscribe if you haven't already.

And as far as the survey goes, the outcome is only as good as the data received, which is why he asks that people a) participate and B) do so regularly...

Posted by: mkaresh Aug 20 2010, 09:54 AM

I did not call you a liar, and do not think you're a liar. I allowed that this might be what you remember. Everyone remembers things incorrectly at least some of the time.

I manually send emails, though, and use a regular schedule. So I'm certain I've never sent you five emails a day, even for one day, much less for three weeks, and would not want people to think this was true.

As for "having" to add me to a spam list, every email provides simple instructions for unsubscribing at the bottom, which is the conventional location. It takes about ten seconds.

Posted by: Bobzilla Aug 20 2010, 10:01 AM

Nothing on your site takes "about 10 seconds".

Posted by: mkaresh Aug 20 2010, 10:09 AM

How long does it take you to type "unsubscribe" and hit the "send" button?

I'm sorry you found the site difficult to use. This is a problem I'm aware many people have, and would very much like to fix. Which is why I asked for more detailed, constructive feedback on what you found difficult. Trashing the site is not feedback I can use.

Posted by: Bobzilla Aug 20 2010, 10:14 AM

i HAVE GIVEN you this multiple times on multiple sites. apparently reading comprehension is not your strong suit...

Posted by: popeye Aug 20 2010, 10:17 AM

Bob.... Please?

Posted by: Bobzilla Aug 20 2010, 10:23 AM

Pops you know I don't exactly react well to being "politely" called a liar. I've shared this with the same person on EXD everytime he pops up. It goes unnoticed/untouched/unrecognized and in his (pathetic) attempt to make the site look better decides to blame the user, KNOWING there are problems with complexity/ease of use.

Not good business sense.

Posted by: mkaresh Aug 20 2010, 10:41 AM

I have no problem with reading comprehension. I do have a problem with memory. I do a ton of work every day, and interact with many people. I do not recall every forum interaction I've had.

You seem to want to be able to say whatever you want to say, and for me to simply accept it.

Twice today in this thread I've acknowledged usability problems for many site visitors, and asked for your help. I don't doubt that we've had a similar exchange before, though I doubt it's every time I post.

Please understand, though, that I cannot do much with "your site is hard to use." To be able to fix the problem, I need to know which part of the site is hard to use, and how it is hard to use.

Posted by: popeye Aug 20 2010, 10:56 AM

I realize that you have been offended, but I feel it may be best to call him out in a PM to air your differences that's all.

In order for him or any developer to succeed it's not unreasonable to ask for feedback, but it needs to be detailed, articulate and constructive. I know that I would not make a good beta tester because it's hard for me to be detailed and articulate when giving feedback on applications and such.

Posted by: mkaresh Oct 1 2010, 11:14 AM

Sorry, popeye, forgot to thank you earlier for your excellent moderating. It's not often one finds such a level head on the Internet.

Posted by: mkaresh Nov 7 2010, 11:04 AM

Starting this month we have a new question to measure, as objectively as possible, the severity of a problem. Many people have been asking for reliability stats that weight problems by how severe they are, and once we have enough responses with the revised survey we'll start providing this.

Also, updated reliability stats this month.

As always, the more owners participate, the better the information we can provide to everyone.

http://www.truedelta.com/reliability.php

Posted by: jamhandman Nov 8 2010, 08:02 AM

Nice. :^) thanks for the update I use this site, well I update my car on this site :^)

Posted by: Neanderthal Nov 20 2010, 01:13 PM

Guess Spectraz are just an afterthought. Oh well...

Posted by: mkaresh Jan 2 2011, 12:31 PM

We have updated results for the Elantra to include owner experiences through September 30, 2010. Other sources of car reliability information won't cover the months since April until the summer or even fall of next year.

Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2009: 50, about average

2008: 21, better than average

2007: 42, better than average

2006: 75, about average

2005: 62, about average

2004: 79, about average

2003: 94, about average

2002: 133, about average

2001: 158, worse than average

Small sample sizes for the 2001-2004 and 2006.

Thank you, once again, to everyone who has been helping. We'll have further updates in February and May. With more participants, we could provide more precise information and cover all model years.

To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help:

http://www.truedelta.com/car-reliability.php?stage=pt&bd=Hyundai&mc=119

Posted by: mkaresh Mar 16 2011, 09:45 AM

We have updated results for the Elantra to include owner experiences through December 31, 2010. Other sources of car reliability information won't cover the months since April until the summer or even fall of this year.

Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2009: 48, about average

2008: 25, better than average

2007: 25, better than average

2006: 94, about average

2005: 79, about average

2004: 105, about average

2003: 135, worse than average

2002: 109, about average

2001: 150, about average

Small sample sizes for the 2001-2004 and 2006, so these results are not precise.

Thank you, once again, to everyone who has been helping. We'll have further updates in May and August. With more participants, we could provide more precise information and cover all model years.

To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help:

http://www.truedelta.com/car-reliability.php?stage=pt&bd=Hyundai&mc=119

Posted by: mkaresh Jun 17 2011, 12:51 PM

We have updated results for the Elantra to include owner experiences through March 31, 2011.

Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2009: 46, about average

2008: 33, better than average

2007: 19, better than average

2006: 89, about average

2005: 76, about average

2004: 101, about average

2003: 120, about average

2002: 107, about average

2001: 154, worse than average

Small sample sizes for the 2001, 2003, 2004 and 2006, so these results are not precise.

We'll have further updates in August and November. With more participants, we could provide more precise information and cover all model years.

To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help improve this information:

http://www.truedelta.com/car-reliability.php?stage=pt&bd=Hyundai&mc=119

Posted by: mkaresh Sep 9 2011, 11:26 AM

We have updated our reliability stats for the Elantra to include owner experiences through June 30, 2011.

Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2011: 26, better than average

2009: 57, about average

2008: 33, better than average

2007: 27, better than average

2006: 98, about average

2005: 66, about average

2004: 94, about average

2003: 125, about average

2002: 104, about average

2001: 161, worse than average

Small sample sizes for the 2001, 2003, 2004, 2006, and 2007, so these results are not precise.

We'll have further updates in November and February. With more participants, we could provide more precise information and cover all model years.

To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help improve this information:

http://www.truedelta.com/car-reliability.php?stage=pt&bd=Hyundai&mc=119

Posted by: mkaresh Jan 23 2012, 01:42 PM

We have updated our reliability stats for the Elantra (on our redesigned site) to include owner experiences through September 30, 2011.

Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2011: 22, better than average

2009: 53, about average

2008: 40, better than average

2007: 28, better than average

2006: 81, about average

2005: 65, better than average

2004: 108, about average

2003: 108, about average

2002: 106, about average

2001: 148, about average

Small sample sizes for the 2001, 2003, 2004, 2006, and 2007, so these our reliability stats are not precise.

Thank you, once again, to this forum and everyone who has been helping. We'll have further updates in February and May. With more participants, we could provide more precise information and cover all model years.

To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help improve this information:

http://www.truedelta.com/car-reliability.php?stage=pt&bd=Hyundai&mc=119

Posted by: mkaresh Dec 17 2012, 12:58 PM

We have updated our reliability stats for the Elantra to include owner experiences through September 30, 2012.

Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2012: 19, better than average

2011: 26, better than average

2010: 35, about average on stricter recalibrated scale

2009: 56, about average

2008: 39, about average

2007: 36, better than average, small sample size

2006: 27, better than average, small sample size

2005: 90, worse than average

2004: 83, about average, very small sample size

2003: 71, about average, very small sample size

2002: 95, about average, small sample size

2001: 89, about average, very small sample size

We'll have further updates in February and May. We'd love to provide more precise stats and fully cover more model years--just a matter of getting more owners involved.

To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help improve this information:

http://truedelta.com/Hyundai-Elantra/reliability-119

Posted by: mkaresh Apr 1 2013, 11:59 AM

We have updated our reliability stats for the Elantra to include owner experiences through December 31, 2012.

Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2013: no repairs reported, 16 cars

2012: 10, low

2011: 26, low

2010: 33, low, a single car short of the minimum this time

2009: 42, moderate

2008: 43, low

2007: 20, low, small sample size

2006: 18, low, small sample size

2005: 96, high

2004: 71, moderate, very small sample size

2003: 63, low, very small sample size

2002: 73, low, small sample size

2001: 88, moderate, very small sample size

Thank you, once again, to this forum and everyone who has been helping. We'll have further updates in May and August. The more owners participate, the more comprehensive and precise these will be.

To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help:

http://truedelta.com/Hyundai-Elantra/reliability-119

Posted by: mkaresh Jul 19 2013, 12:25 PM

We've updated our reliability stats for the Elantra to include owner experiences through March 31, 2013.

Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2013 Elantra: 0, low
2012 Elantra: 11, low
2011 Elantra: 37, moderate
2010 Elantra: 30, low
2009 Elantra: 39, low
2008 Elantra: 35, low
2007 Elantra: 21, low, small sample size
2006 Elantra: 47, low, small sample size
2005 Elantra: 96, high
2004 Elantra: 54, low, small sample size
2003 Elantra: 39, low, very small sample size
2002 Elantra: 103, moderate, small sample size

We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds", to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop:

2012 Elantra: 87, < 1
2011 Elantra: 76, 4
2008 Elantra: 81, < 1

We'll have further updates in August and in November.

For the details, including the descriptions of reported repairs, and to sign up to help improve this information:

http://www.truedelta.com/Hyundai-Elantra/reliability-119

Posted by: mkaresh Oct 14 2013, 11:58 AM

We've updated our reliability stats for the Elantra to include owner experiences through June 30, 2013. (Another source is about 14 months behind.)

Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2013 Elantra: 0, low
2012 Elantra: 25, low
2011 Elantra: 38, moderate
2010 Elantra: 22, low
2009 Elantra: 16, low
2008 Elantra: 38, low
2007 Elantra: 23, low, small sample size
2006 Elantra: 40, low, small sample size
2005 Elantra: 107, high
2004 Elantra: 66, moderate, small sample size
2003 Elantra: 51, low, very small sample size
2002 Elantra: 91, moderate, small sample size

We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds", to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop:

2012 Elantra: 76, < 1
2011 Elantra: 75, 4
2008 Elantra: 74, < 1

We'll have further updates in November and February.

To view competitors' scores and descriptions of reported repairs, and to sign up to help:

http://www.truedelta.com/Hyundai-Elantra/reliability-119

Posted by: mkaresh Dec 31 2013, 12:26 PM

We've updated our reliability stats for the Elantra to include owner experiences through September 30, 2013.

Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2013 Elantra: 4, low
2012 Elantra: 25, low
2011 Elantra: 45, moderate
2010 Elantra: 43, moderate, small sample size
2009 Elantra: 15, low
2008 Elantra: 30, low
2007 Elantra: 23, low, small sample size
2006 Elantra: 86, moderate, very small sample size
2005 Elantra: 83, moderate
2004 Elantra: 69, low, very small sample size
2003 Elantra: 56, low, very small sample size
2002 Elantra: 72, low, small sample size

We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds", to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop:

2012 Elantra: 73, < 1
2008 Elantra: 73, < 1

We'll have further updates in February and in May. The more owners participate, the more comprehensive and precise these will be.

To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help improve this information:

http://www.truedelta.com/Hyundai-Elantra/reliability-119

Posted by: mkaresh Mar 25 2014, 01:59 PM

We've updated our reliability stats for the Elantra to include owner experiences through December 31, 2013.

Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2013 Elantra: 4, low
2012 Elantra: 38, moderate
2011 Elantra: 46, moderate
2010 Elantra: 44, moderate, small sample size
2009 Elantra: 15, low, small sample size
2008 Elantra: 34, low
2007 Elantra: 31, low, small sample size
2006 Elantra: 82, moderate, very small sample size
2005 Elantra: 69, moderate
2004 Elantra: 68, moderate, very small sample size
2003 Elantra: 99, moderate, very small sample size
2002 Elantra: 72, low, very small sample size

We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds", to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop:

2012 Elantra: 65, < 1
2008 Elantra: 78, < 1

We'll have further updates in May and in August. The more owners participate, the more comprehensive and precise these will be.

To see the repairs behind these stats, and to sign up to help improve this information:

http://www.truedelta.com/Hyundai-Elantra/reliability-119

Posted by: trololololo Mar 25 2014, 04:57 PM

so 2013s stayed same?

Posted by: mkaresh Jun 19 2014, 02:00 PM

Our reliability stats for the Elantra now include owner experiences through March 31, 2014, making them nearly a year ahead of other sources.

Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2013 Elantra: 9, low
2012 Elantra: 49, moderate
2011 Elantra: 41, moderate
2010 Elantra: 40, moderate, small sample size
2009 Elantra: 26, low, small sample size
2008 Elantra: 31, low
2007 Elantra: 41, low, small sample size
2006 Elantra: 64, moderate, very small sample size
2005 Elantra: 77, moderate
2004 Elantra: 39, low, very small sample size
2003 Elantra: 127, high, small sample size
2002 Elantra: 50, low, small sample size

We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds", to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop:

2013 Elantra: 96, < 1
2012 Elantra: 58, < 1
2008 Elantra: 73, < 1

Thank you, once again, everyone who has been helping. Next update in August.

For a deeper dive, including the stats for other cars and repair descriptions, and to sign up to help improve this information:

http://www.truedelta.com/Hyundai-Elantra/reliability-119

Posted by: mkaresh Sep 28 2014, 11:54 AM

We've updated our reliability stats for the Elantra to include owner experiences through June 30, 2014 (making them about 14 months ahead of some others).

Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2013 Elantra: 15, low
2012 Elantra: 43, moderate
2011 Elantra: 43, moderate
2010 Elantra: 39, low, small sample size
2009 Elantra: 32, low, small sample size
2008 Elantra: 24, low
2007 Elantra: 53, moderate
2006 Elantra: 40, low, very small sample size
2005 Elantra: 64, moderate
2004 Elantra: 56, low, very small sample size
2003 Elantra: 89, moderate, small sample size
2002 Elantra: 41, low, small sample size

We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds", to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop:

2013 Elantra: 90, < 1
2012 Elantra: 65, < 1
2008 Elantra: 74, < 1

Next updates in November and in February. The more owners participate, the more comprehensive and precise these will be.

For repair descriptions, the stats of other cars, and to sign up to help improve this information:

http://www.truedelta.com/Hyundai-Elantra/reliability-119

Posted by: mkaresh Dec 28 2014, 12:56 PM

We've updated our reliability stats for the Elantra to include owner experiences through September 30, 2014.

Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2010 Elantra: 18, low, small sample size
2009 Elantra: 37, low, small sample size
2008 Elantra: 25, low
2007 Elantra: 48, low, small sample size
2006 Elantra: 30, low, small sample size
2005 Elantra: 62, moderate
2004 Elantra: 72, moderate, very small sample size
2003 Elantra: 102, moderate, small sample size
2002 Elantra: 107, moderate, very small sample size

We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds", to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop:

2008 Elantra: 75, < 1

Additional participants always helpful (especially if you see "low sample size" next to the year, or no stat at all).

To view the repairs behind these numbers, check the stats for other cars, and sign up to help improve this information (next update in February):

http://www.truedelta.com/Hyundai-Elantra/reliability-119

Posted by: mkaresh Mar 30 2015, 02:18 PM

New stuff this time. We've updated our reliability stats for the Elantra to include owner experiences through the end of 2014. Plus we've added reliability trends graphs. These indicate how a model's reliability has changed as it has aged, and how different model years performed when the same age.

Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2014 Elantra: 12, low, very small sample size
2013 Elantra: 22, low
2012 Elantra: 42, moderate
2011 Elantra: 37, moderate
2010 Elantra: 13, low, small sample size
2009 Elantra: 36, low
2008 Elantra: 19, low
2007 Elantra: 24, low, small sample size
2006 Elantra: 48, low, small sample size
2005 Elantra: 60, low
2004 Elantra: 70, low, very small sample size
2003 Elantra: 60, low, very small sample size
2002 Elantra: 112, moderate, very small sample size

We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds", to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop:

2013 Elantra: 82, < 1
2012 Elantra: 70, < 1

We'll have further updates in May and in August. The more owners participate, the more comprehensive and precise these will be.

For the details, including how competitors compare, and to sign up to help improve this information:

http://www.truedelta.com/Hyundai-Elantra/reliability-119

I've attached the new reliability trends graph. Those for other models can be found in the site's reliability area.

Posted by: mkaresh Jul 23 2015, 12:01 PM

So, how have these cars been doing lately?

Our reliability stats for the Elantra now include owner experiences through March 31, 2015. (Others are nearly a year behind.)

In terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year ("low" is best):

2014 Elantra: 26, low, small sample size
2013 Elantra: 19, low
2012 Elantra: 34, low
2011 Elantra: 46, moderate
2010 Elantra: 24, low, small sample size
2009 Elantra: 38, low
2008 Elantra: 19, low
2007 Elantra: 20, low, small sample size
2006 Elantra: 64, moderate, small sample size
2005 Elantra: 57, low
2003 Elantra: 42, low, very small sample size
2002 Elantra: 110, moderate, very small sample size

Plus, the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop:

2013 Elantra: 85, < 1
2012 Elantra: 68, < 1

No stat for a model year? Then we very much need more participants for it. Same for those with small sample size notes. Next updates in August and November.

For repair descriptions, the stats for other cars, and to sign up to help improve this information:

http://www.truedelta.com/Hyundai-Elantra/reliability-119

Posted by: Bobzilla Jul 24 2015, 08:41 AM

I've not had my Elantra for almost 3 years and I STILL get weekly spam messages.

Posted by: mkaresh Oct 14 2015, 11:05 AM

Our reliability stats for the Elantra now cover the year ending June 30, 2015. (Others are over a year behind, and so report how these cars were doing when a year younger.)

Repair trips per 100 cars:

2014 Elantra: 27, low, small sample size
2013 Elantra: 22, low
2012 Elantra: 25, low
2011 Elantra: 40, moderate
2010 Elantra: 44, low, small sample size
2009 Elantra: 44, low
2008 Elantra: 20, low
2007 Elantra: 27, low, small sample size
2006 Elantra: 78, moderate, small sample size
2005 Elantra: 51, low
2003 Elantra: 46, low, very small sample size
2002 Elantra: 91, moderate, very small sample size

We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds", to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop:

2013 Elantra: 86, < 1
2012 Elantra: 79, < 1

If a model year isn't listed, or its sample size is small, then we especially need more owners involved.

For the descriptions of all reported repairs, results for other models, and to sign up to help improve this information:

http://www.truedelta.com/Hyundai-Elantra/reliability-119

We only send weekly reminders to people who signed up to help but who haven't responded. And only during one month each quarter.

Every one of those messages has asked you to report if the car has been sold. A reply via email also works. I personally read all of the email we receive.

How do you expect me to know you've sold the car otherwise?

Posted by: mkaresh Jan 22 2016, 01:59 PM

We've updated our reliability stats for the Elantra to include owner experiences through September 30, 2015.

Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2014 Elantra: 24, low, small sample size
2013 Elantra: 16, low
2012 Elantra: 26, low
2011 Elantra: 43, moderate, small sample size
2010 Elantra: 40, low, small sample size
2009 Elantra: 44, low, small sample size
2008 Elantra: 24, low
2007 Elantra: 64, moderate, small sample size
2006 Elantra: 61, low, small sample size
2005 Elantra: 70, low, small sample size
2003 Elantra: 24, low, very small sample size
2002 Elantra: 78, low, very small sample size

We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds", to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop:

2013 Elantra: 88, < 1

We'll have further updates in February and in May. Additional participants are needed to provide precise stats for all model years.

For the details, including repair descriptions, and to sign up to help improve this information:

http://www.truedelta.com/Hyundai-Elantra/reliability-119

Posted by: mkaresh Mar 23 2016, 01:38 PM

We've updated our reliability stats for the Elantra to include owner experiences through the end of 2015, about eight months ahead of other sources. In terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year--lower is better:

2014 Elantra: 22, low, small sample size
2013 Elantra: 15, low
2012 Elantra: 24, low
2011 Elantra: 55, moderate, small sample size
2010 Elantra: 44, low, small sample size
2009 Elantra: 48, low, small sample size
2008 Elantra: 23, low
2007 Elantra: 67, moderate, small sample size
2006 Elantra: 71, moderate, small sample size
2005 Elantra: 106, moderate, small sample size
2003 Elantra: 38, low, very small sample size
2002 Elantra: 116, moderate, very small sample size

We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds", to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop:

2013 Elantra: 82, < 1
2012 Elantra: 73, < 1
2008 Elantra: 80, < 1

We'll have further updates in May and in August. The more owners participate, the more comprehensive and precise these will be. No stat, or a small sample size? Then we especially need more owners involved for that model year.

For the repairs behind these stats, reliability information on other models, and to sign up to help improve this information:

http://www.truedelta.com/Hyundai-Elantra/reliability-119

Posted by: mkaresh Oct 21 2016, 01:16 PM

We've updated our reliability stats for the Elantra to include owner experiences through June 30, 2016. Reliability information elsewhere is based on a survey conducted in April 2015--well over a year ago.

Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year (lower is better):

2016 Elantra: 0, low, very small sample size
2014 Elantra: 9, low
2013 Elantra: 25, low
2012 Elantra: 25, low
2011 Elantra: 23, low, small sample size
2010 Elantra: 24, low, small sample size
2009 Elantra: 31, low, small sample size
2008 Elantra: 20, low
2007 Elantra: 38, low, small sample size
2006 Elantra: 81, moderate, small sample size
2005 Elantra: 126, high, very small sample size
2003 Elantra: 74, moderate, very small sample size

We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds", to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop:

2013 Elantra: 80, 2
2012 Elantra: 83, < 1
2008 Elantra: 79, < 1

We'll have further updates in November and next February. The more owners participate, the more comprehensive and precise these will be.

For the repairs behind these stats, reliability information on other models, and to sign up to help improve this information:

http://www.truedelta.com/Hyundai-Elantra/reliability-119