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post Dec 31 2006, 08:39 AM
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Good Morning! Happy New Year to everyone. I don't post all that often. I have an 05 Elantra GLS 5-dr. My wife has a 98 Cirrus. Ever since a newborn arrived 9 months ago, we have realized that a traditional 4-door does not suit our needs anymore. Ever since I sat in the Rondo at an autoshow in November, I have been researching this car for a replacement. I have a database of specs and pictures, including service information from Kia's version of WebTech. If you have any questions on this vehicle, I will search the database. We are very much anti- SUV and traditional minivan people. We enjoy buying just the space that we need. The debate we have now is 2.4L/4-speed auto vs the 2.7L v-6 /5-speed auto. I would prefer the smaller powertrain.

Anyway, very long post and hope to help out where I can.


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post Dec 31 2006, 10:21 AM
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QUOTE (cobas @ Dec 7 2006, 12:00 AM)
Dooh!! Why do I frequently get the feeling that the US is late to the party??
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post Dec 31 2006, 10:52 AM
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I get the feeling it's more competent towards the Ford Freestyle and Chevy Equinox. It looks more like a small/mid SUV to me than anything else, just the absense of AWD option (who knows, might be optional later).

If I were considering the Rondo, I'd probably lean towards the V6 due to 21/29 vs 20/27 mpg variance is very minimal and the smoother/quieter V6 + 20 extra hp/18 extra torque benefit.


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skduffy, thanks for the info. thumbsup.gif

I don't much like these sorts of vehicles. At least from the outside. All those that cobas posted are unappealing to me.

I said the same thing about minivans. "Hate em!! Would never drive one!!! Ugh!!!"

7 years later I still have my caravan and nothing would have worked better. I'm not thrilled to be seen in it. It is not horribly ugly but it is what it is. However, I can't see how we could have gotten by without one. It is just a perfect vehicle for families. Period.

So for me, if I had to choose a family vehicle again I would go ahead and get a minivan and not opt for one of these tiny transformer compacts.


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post Dec 31 2006, 12:40 PM
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If I were considering the Rondo, I'd probably lean towards the V6 due to 21/29 vs 20/27 mpg variance is very minimal and the smoother/quieter V6 + 20 extra hp/18 extra torque benefit.


Unfortunately, my brain works backwards from most Americans. I am almost thinking of the HD to replace my XD over the new 2006.5 Optima 4-cyl. I would rather have the fuel efficiency of the Beta II over the power of the new world engine 2.4L. Similarly in the Optima I see no reason to get the 2.7L V-6

Other markets get the Beta II in the Rondo/Carens. I would much prefer that engine.



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post Dec 31 2006, 03:17 PM
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QUOTE (skduffy @ Dec 31 2006, 01:40 PM)
Consider me strange....

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ok. . . you're strange rofl.gif . . .j/k

I think it looks pretty decent, but I'd have to see one in real life. Quite frankly I love the new Santa Fe with the third row seats (but of course that is a fair amount more than this) And as far as the no leg room in the third row, I wonder if the second row seats slide forward confused-scratchhead3.gif I've yet to see one in person, so this might not be the case, but just a thought.


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equipped as a 3 row vehicle, the 2nd row is equipped to slide forward and back. The third row legroom is 30.1 inches which is not all that bad. The XD's 35" Also the third row does have a footwell unlike the Mazda5 which IIRC the depth as the cargo area. It is similar to an explorer with the third row, which is more of a kneesin your face experience.


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Okay... reviving an old thread.

I'm in the market again to replace the EGT since we are expecting in early March. I want something somewhat fuel efficient but able to handle the giant car seats without cramping the front seat.

First we were thinking a base Sonata but after testing out the Optima I actually am willing to give up a little trunk space for what felt like a pepier car. (Sonata has 4 speed auto and Optima has 5 speed auto.). The dash (and console) is lit in a nice blue tint with electronic guages for the fuel and temp.

Then Mrs afob3 says 'what is that' as she pointed out a row of Rondos. It drove like a wagon but has the 4 speed like the Sonata so it winds out a bit as you stomp it. The lighting for the guages and buttons is orange. The huge and tall side doors made it really easy to hoist my 2 year old in and out. The second row sits higher than the front like stadium seating so he was able to see all around outside where his view in the Optima was the top of the door. The second row does move front and back to provide access to the 3rd row. I think we would drop the $300 third row for a 5 seater and gain all of the storage cubbies under the deck.

I'm still leaning towards the optima since it will primarily be my commuting car (25k miles a year) while the Rondo surely does fit the bill for a primary vehicle for a small family without going minivan or SUV.

Dealer on Sunday pulled one of those what do we have to do to get you to take it today things and offered me the Optima for $14k plus TTL or the Rondo for $16.5k plus TTL. I thought this was outstanding until he tried to steal my EGT for $6800. (KBB, NADA, and the Black book all have it around $9,000. We didn't bargain since we were already heading for the door.

Anyhow I have to call this quote around to see if I can get a better deal on the trade and see what happens.

Since this thread is kinda old has anyone else driven the Rondo yet or the Optima for that matter?


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I'll miss you, Afob... You've been a good member on several boards... then again, I kind of expect you'll hang around and help when you can.


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post Sep 17 2007, 09:28 PM
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Haven't driven the Optima or Rondo. . . but as far as the Sonata, I have two kids, a 5 year old and a 9 month old, and I swear I can fit more in my Sonata than in my wife's '06 Santa Fe. The trunk is huge, and I love the car (2 years later). I have the 3.3L auto V6 and the car is smooth and powerful. That being said the gas mileage hasn't been that great, but my daily commute is filled with stop signs, lights and traffic. I normally get about 18 mpg. . . I can't recall exactly but I think with my '04 Elantra GT there were many tanks that I didn't get much more than 20 mpg. So that is my brief analysis of the Sonata. And yes, if I had to do all over again I most certainly would get the exact same car (although I might have sprung a little more for the sunroof in hindsight as I miss that rofl.gif )


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Alex: that 18mpg is of course with a 3.3 v6 so not too bad.

Afob: the Rondo looks like a shrunken SUV/minivan. I'm not too swung over by its looks. The HHR looks more appealing. Dont go with the Optima as its still using the old 2.4 and 2.7 from the last gen Sonata (someone correct me if im wrong on the 2.4)


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QUOTE (Silent Wolf @ Sep 18 2007, 12:12 AM)
Alex: that 18mpg is of course with a 3.3 v6 so not too bad.

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yea. . . i'm certainly not complaining, just wanted to point out what I was getting. I'm not driving crazy miles where lower MPG really affects me. Plus I love the extra HP 676.gif


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