DANGER: K&N Filters, DO NOT OIL EXCESSIVELY!!!
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DANGER: K&N Filters, DO NOT OIL EXCESSIVELY!!!
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Jun 13 2011, 12:12 PM
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Club Newbie Group: Members Posts: 31 Posts Per Day: 0.01 Thanks Received: 0 Trader Stats: 0 (0%) Joined: 11-June 11 From: thessaloniki greece Member No.: 10,491 |
QUOTE For the money, I went with the drop in panel K&N. I did take the resonator out of all the Elantras I've owned. but the drop in panel costs about 50 euro and the apollo about 100.Yes is acctually twice as much but isn't the apollo twice as good? -------------------- A proud member of the club.
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Jun 13 2011, 12:52 PM
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... Group: Lifetimer Posts: 11,937 Posts Per Day: 1.70 Thanks Received: 137 Trader Stats: 14 (100%) Joined: 11-January 05 From: Poughkeepsie, NY Member No.: 5 Mood: Blah |
Between removing the resonator or adding the Apollo I don't think the difference is big. The panel I've had for over 160K miles and I clean it every 10K miles.
-------------------- 05 Tidal Wave GLS 5 spd
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Jun 27 2011, 06:03 PM
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Sailin' Man Group: Members Posts: 295 Posts Per Day: 0.04 Thanks Received: 2 Trader Stats: 0 (0%) Joined: 27-January 05 From: Seattle, WA Member No.: 51 Mood: Confident |
I. have read this thread and no one has mentioned the fact that K&N filters don't filter well. As a matter of fact, they are one of the worst. The new dry cone filters are much better at removing dust particles which also can effect the air sensor.
This post has been edited by Elantrick: Jun 27 2011, 09:49 PM -------------------- Elantrick's 2004 Tidal Wave Blue GT Sporting black with red stripe 17X7.5" Drag wheels, Nitto Neo-Gen 215/40/17 tires, 19.2 rear Sway Bar, Shark Adjustable Short Shifter with lifted frame, 100 watt head lamps, with hid fog lamps wired independent of the Low beams, cold air intake, Edelbrock springs lowered 1.25" with KYB shocks and Tinted Windows. |
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Jun 27 2011, 06:13 PM
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Elantra Guru Group: Leader Posts: 3,309 Posts Per Day: 0.62 Thanks Received: 558 Trader Stats: 0 (0%) Joined: 12-August 09 From: Clinton, MA (USA) Member No.: 7,533 Mood: Evil |
I'd like to see proof of this.
My stock filter is CA10470 and im using a K&N 33-2380 filter. No issues. -------------------- |
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Jun 27 2011, 06:24 PM
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Club Founder Group: Admin Posts: 21,359 Posts Per Day: 3.03 Thanks Received: 2809 Trader Stats: 16 (100%) Joined: 23-December 04 From: Maryland Member No.: 1 Mood: Okay |
K&N filters just fine, maybe not quite as well as stock but it's certainly a safe filter to use (just don't over-oil it).
The nice thing is you get a horsepower or two from it's free flowing nature. -------------------- |
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Jun 27 2011, 07:00 PM
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EClub Live Chat for Life! Group: Lifetimer Posts: 1,426 Posts Per Day: 0.28 Thanks Received: 126 Trader Stats: 2 (100%) Joined: 12-February 10 From: gone Member No.: 8,215 Mood: Sick |
K&N filters just fine, maybe not quite as well as stock but it's certainly a safe filter to use (just don't over-oil it). The nice thing is you get a horsepower or two from it's free flowing nature. Which is why the eco-nuts don't like 'em. More air=more fuel required to keep the same ratio. So yes, more power, but at the cost of more fuel burn. HOWEVER, that tiny increase in fuel burn MAY allow you to get out of the inefficient low gears and into the top ratios faster/easier, as well as allow you to hold a tall gear down to a lower speed easier, which may provide enough boost in MPG to offset the additional fuel burned. I say this as speculation, because I haven't done, nor have I seen, long-term tests where the filters are swapped back and forth on the same vehicle. I'd be willing to perform such a test, if someone sends me a K&N filter...I burn through a whole tank of gas every 4 days with my 140 miles/day roundtrip commute. -------------------- |
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Jun 27 2011, 10:06 PM
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Sailin' Man Group: Members Posts: 295 Posts Per Day: 0.04 Thanks Received: 2 Trader Stats: 0 (0%) Joined: 27-January 05 From: Seattle, WA Member No.: 51 Mood: Confident |
I use to work on Motorcycles so I know that the K&N don't filter well, Yes they have more flow which gives you more power, but at at the cost of cylinder and Piston ring wear.
You will still get a lot more miles out of our cars without a filter than you would 30 years ago so it's not that big a deal See this website for some more info. http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/filters_test/2/ -------------------- Elantrick's 2004 Tidal Wave Blue GT Sporting black with red stripe 17X7.5" Drag wheels, Nitto Neo-Gen 215/40/17 tires, 19.2 rear Sway Bar, Shark Adjustable Short Shifter with lifted frame, 100 watt head lamps, with hid fog lamps wired independent of the Low beams, cold air intake, Edelbrock springs lowered 1.25" with KYB shocks and Tinted Windows. |
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Jun 28 2011, 06:16 AM
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I'd be willing to perform such a test, if someone sends me a K&N filter...I burn through a whole tank of gas every 4 days with my 140 miles/day roundtrip commute. I have the K&N panel I took out of my car when I started hypermiling... it needs to be cleaned and oiled, but I'll ship it to you if you want... but I may want it back if it works! This post has been edited by FSUspectra: Jun 28 2011, 06:17 AM -------------------- |
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Jun 28 2011, 07:21 AM
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... Group: Lifetimer Posts: 11,937 Posts Per Day: 1.70 Thanks Received: 137 Trader Stats: 14 (100%) Joined: 11-January 05 From: Poughkeepsie, NY Member No.: 5 Mood: Blah |
I have 200 K miles on my K&N panel filter. If anything that small passes through it, I don't care.
-------------------- 05 Tidal Wave GLS 5 spd
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Jun 28 2011, 08:50 AM
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EClub Live Chat for Life! Group: Lifetimer Posts: 1,426 Posts Per Day: 0.28 Thanks Received: 126 Trader Stats: 2 (100%) Joined: 12-February 10 From: gone Member No.: 8,215 Mood: Sick |
I have the K&N panel I took out of my car when I started hypermiling... it needs to be cleaned and oiled, but I'll ship it to you if you want... but I may want it back if it works! I'm game. I'll PM you my address. -------------------- |
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