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post Oct 10 2013, 03:49 PM
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So after getting the wife's car back on the road, she went and put gas in it. Now when she has a full tank, I can smell gasoline in the garage. It also started throwing code P0441. Would the purge valve cause me to smell gas, or is it a leak in the top of the tank somewhere?


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post Oct 10 2013, 04:00 PM
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Yep sounds like a over fill.


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QUOTE (slowgls @ Oct 10 2013, 05:00 PM) *
Yep sounds like a over fill.


But she never tops it off. She stops when the pump stops. Guess I'll have to look into how to pull *that* apart as well. Sigh...


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check the cap, clear the code, and wait for it to come back on.


then worry about it.


but from what i can read, it may be the " emission system purge flow check valve" or "EVAP Purge Control Solenoid Valve" and will be under $100, and only a few minutes to fix. it's on the firewall or by the throttlebody most likely .


you can also spray down all the emissions vac lines with soapy water and check for leaks.

http://www.1aauto.com/1A/PurgeVentEvaporat...CFYmf4Aod8Q8A2w


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QUOTE (slowgls @ Oct 10 2013, 02:00 PM) *
Yep sounds like a over fill.

Hey-You mean "smells" like a over fill. Sorry. Couldn't resist.


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QUOTE (Red Elantra GT @ Oct 10 2013, 09:46 PM) *
Hey-You mean "smells" like a over fill. Sorry. Couldn't resist.

Hehehe, well that too! tongue.gif


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post Oct 11 2013, 07:48 AM
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QUOTE (RPW00Mirage @ Oct 10 2013, 08:21 PM) *
check the cap, clear the code, and wait for it to come back on.


then worry about it.


Did that. It came back on. Looks like it's under the car I go. Hopefully I can find this valve easily... kiatechinfo.com doesn't have nearly the nice pictures that hyundaitechinfo.com does.


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post Oct 11 2013, 08:54 AM
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QUOTE (bhorste @ Oct 11 2013, 08:48 AM) *
Looks like it's under the car I go


Above the car you go... hopefully smile.gif

PCSV - The valve is actuated by the purge control signal from the ECM and controls fuel vapor from the EVAP Can to the intake manifold.








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Where did you find that wonderful pic? The Kia site didn't have that one... unless I'm very much a doof (which I also wouldn't rule out).


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QUOTE (Vinnie @ Oct 11 2013, 12:22 PM) *
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And now it makes sense. Something I will have to take a look at when the wife gets home from work. Hoping I can do an oil filter change/brake slide pin change while the baby's down and the 4yo is at preschool. Wishful thinking, right?


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You do know about the Kia service site too, right? It's just like HMAService but for Kia.


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