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> Alpha alternator, small PIA, or major PIA?
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post Aug 11 2013, 08:54 PM
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The wife's Rio has been sitting for a couple of weeks because of her recovery from the c-section. I went to fire it up today so we could drive it and the battery was dead. No big deal, I have a charger. Threw the charger on there, tried to fire it up, didn't hardly turn over. Okay, looks like the battery is the original so I'll get around to replacing it. Threw the charger on again just in case, and got it to turn over and fire. Alternator belt starts squealing immediately, then started smoking. Shut the car off, looked for the source of the smoke, and also found bits of belt dust everywhere. I'm thinking perhaps the alternator has seized, so I'm going to have to replace it as well.

Just how big a PIA is this going to be? I'm thinking that I'm going to go ahead and do the timing belt and water pump while I'm in there, but just looking at it makes me think it's going to be a multi-day project. Has anyone done one on a Rio/Accent? This is an '03, if it helps you out.


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post Aug 11 2013, 09:56 PM
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The Elantra alternator replacement is pretty simple. I haven't done it myself, but I've read about members doing the job in pretty short order. If you're savvy enough to do the timing belt, the alternator should be a breeze.

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post Aug 12 2013, 09:11 AM
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03 is pre-Accent sharing, so I'm not sure. I believe it is on the same side as the alpha/beta/theta (down low passenger side.). If it's typical asian, it'll be 12mm retention bolts, 10mm for the power wire and it'll likely have to comeout the bottom.


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QUOTE (Bobzilla @ Aug 12 2013, 10:11 AM) *
03 is pre-Accent sharing, so I'm not sure. I believe it is on the same side as the alpha/beta/theta (down low passenger side.). If it's typical asian, it'll be 12mm retention bolts, 10mm for the power wire and it'll likely have to comeout the bottom.


Actually, it's not that low. It's accessible from the top, but because of the intake/air conditioning hoses I don't think it'll come out through the top.


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post Aug 15 2013, 11:40 AM
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So I'm elbow-deep in it now... doing the alternator, battery, timing belt and water pump. The car, as expected, is mounting terrific resistance to my efforts. Right now, my problem is trying to get the power steering pump loosened enough to remove that belt (it's the outer of the 2 anyway). The trick is the bolt labeled 7 in this picture:



It seems that the head of it is buried where I can't get at it, and the nut on the other side is restricted access due to the exhaust manifold. After lunch, I guess I'm going to try to locate the head of the bolt and give the air tools another go at it (or perhaps my breaker bar), but failing that, any suggestions?


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Are you trying to get to the bolt from up top? Try coming at it from the wheel well if possible.
Looks like it is low like where the alternator is in the Elantra. Turn the wheel (or remove it) and move the splash shield in the wheel well and see if it is there.
Not sure if it the same, but worth a try.


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QUOTE (blupupher @ Aug 15 2013, 12:52 PM) *
Are you trying to get to the bolt from up top? Try coming at it from the wheel well if possible.
Looks like it is low like where the alternator is in the Elantra. Turn the wheel (or remove it) and move the splash shield in the wheel well and see if it is there.
Not sure if it the same, but worth a try.


I think it's up too high to get at from the wheel well, but I'll take a look in a bit (read: after we get the kids down for a nap). I did take the wheel off, knowing that it's definitely going to be easier to get at the timing sprocket from that end. Stay tuned.


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You are replacing that belt as well right? Cut it. The new one you can get on by starting it by hand then turning hte pulley to seat it. If this is one of the pre-smart t-belt jobs, you'll have to support the engine and take the side mount off. When you do that, you can use the jack to raise and lower the engine to make certain bolts easier to get to.


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QUOTE (Bobzilla @ Aug 15 2013, 01:15 PM) *
You are replacing that belt as well right? Cut it. The new one you can get on by starting it by hand then turning hte pulley to seat it. If this is one of the pre-smart t-belt jobs, you'll have to support the engine and take the side mount off. When you do that, you can use the jack to raise and lower the engine to make certain bolts easier to get to.


That might not be a bad idea... provided I've got something burly enough to cut the belt. I'm hoping I can do it the "normal" way, though.


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Power steering pump has been defeated. Turns out, the bolt is only accessible from the top, provided you have the pulley turned just right so you can access the bolt through one of the two holes in the pulley. Next up, alternator. Trying to figure out the best way to get at the bottom bolt and then remove/replace... looking like through the bottom. Ack.


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Well, now I've got a real snag... the head snapped off the alternator mounting bolt. I'm going to surf the mall and find some sort of screw extractor set and hope that that and a new can of PB'laster will save my bacon.

The good thing is that my wife isn't driving again yet after the c-section. The car can sit immobile for another month and a half, but I'm going to try really hard to have it back on the road by next weekend.


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So I'll be headed back under the car tomorrow... hopefully to remove that freakin' bolt that busted off. Might have to bust out the 6" long drill bit so I can get a run at the bolt from the far side of the obstructions.


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