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ElantraClub - For Elantra Owners and Enthusiasts _ The Kia Zone _ Rio steel brake line

Posted by: bhorste Dec 15 2009, 03:50 PM

Anybody have a guess as to the size of the steel brake lines on an '03 Rio? The right rear one on my wife's car got bent and I need to replace it. Fun fun fun!

Posted by: Vincent Ingalls Dec 15 2009, 04:49 PM

brake hose for hydraulic or parking brake cable?

QUOTE (bhorste @ Dec 15 2009, 03:50 PM) *
Anybody have a guess as to the size of the steel brake lines on an '03 Rio? The right rear one on my wife's car got bent and I need to replace it. Fun fun fun!


Dont know the size nor if you're speaking of parking cable or hydraulic brake hose.

Here is the dealer price and OEM number...

0k30a44410h $42.10 for the right rear parking cable
0k30a43810a $26.90 for the flex line (hydraulic)

Posted by: bhorste Dec 15 2009, 06:31 PM

QUOTE (Vincent Ingalls @ Dec 15 2009, 04:49 PM) *
brake hose for hydraulic or parking brake cable?



Dont know the size nor if you're speaking of parking cable or hydraulic brake hose.

Here is the dealer price and OEM number...

0k30a44410h $42.10 for the right rear parking cable
0k30a43810a $26.90 for the flex line (hydraulic)


I mean the solid line that runs from the flexible line into the wheel cylinder. The cables and hoses are fine.

Posted by: Vincent Ingalls Dec 15 2009, 09:08 PM

QUOTE (bhorste @ Dec 15 2009, 06:31 PM) *
I mean the solid line that runs from the flexible line into the wheel cylinder. The cables and hoses are fine.


It would be the flex line then.

http://www.car-stuff.com/carparts/kiario20012005centricce150.503031.html

I dont know the size, but since we're talking brakes and lives depending upon the vehicle stopping, I recommend just replacing it instead of just the steel tubing, then you'd have to deal with bending and fittings and such.

Posted by: bhorste Dec 15 2009, 09:28 PM

QUOTE (Vincent Ingalls @ Dec 15 2009, 09:08 PM) *
It would be the flex line then.

http://www.car-stuff.com/carparts/kiario20012005centricce150.503031.html

I dont know the size, but since we're talking brakes and lives depending upon the vehicle stopping, I recommend just replacing it instead of just the steel tubing, then you'd have to deal with bending and fittings and such.


No, it would be the STEEL LINE. Not the rubber hose. The rubber hose is just fine. The piece that goes between it and the wheel cylinder is a steel tube with flare fittings on either end. It is bent such that it needs replacing, so I have to worry about bending and fittings and such, which is what I've been trying to get at from the beginning. My guess is it's 3/16", but I was hoping somebody might have more accurate knowledge. Thanks for your help.

Posted by: Vincent Ingalls Dec 15 2009, 09:42 PM

QUOTE (bhorste @ Dec 15 2009, 09:28 PM) *
No, it would be the STEEL LINE. Not the rubber hose. The rubber hose is just fine. The piece that goes between it and the wheel cylinder is a steel tube with flare fittings on either end. It is bent such that it needs replacing, so I have to worry about bending and fittings and such, which is what I've been trying to get at from the beginning. My guess is it's 3/16", but I was hoping somebody might have more accurate knowledge. Thanks for your help.


I take it you didnt click my link....



It is one piece link, I'll embed the picture incase you didnt click the link....

Take a picture of it and post it here, I'm pretty sure we're talking about the same thing....

The bore of your wheel cylinders is 11/16th.

Posted by: bhorste Dec 15 2009, 09:54 PM

QUOTE (Vincent Ingalls @ Dec 15 2009, 09:42 PM) *
I take it you didnt click my link....



It is one piece link, I'll embed the picture incase you didnt click the link....


And that's the part that's FORWARD of the part I need to replace. That nice mounting tab on that flexible line? Nothing to mount that to between the flange on the swing arm and the wheel cylinder. I have to replace that whole steel line from the aforementioned part and the wheel cylinder. Similar, but not exactly like, the stuff they're installing http://image.chevyhiperformance.com/f/30717588/0912chp_03_z+stainless_steel_brake_lines_upgrade_chevy_el_camino+rearend_cover_bolt.jpg Again, thank you for your help, but you're just not cottoning on to what I'm asking about.

Posted by: Vincent Ingalls Dec 15 2009, 11:15 PM

QUOTE (bhorste @ Dec 15 2009, 09:54 PM) *
And that's the part that's FORWARD of the part I need to replace. That nice mounting tab on that flexible line? Nothing to mount that to between the flange on the swing arm and the wheel cylinder. I have to replace that whole steel line from the aforementioned part and the wheel cylinder. Similar, but not exactly like, the stuff they're installing http://image.chevyhiperformance.com/f/30717588/0912chp_03_z+stainless_steel_brake_lines_upgrade_chevy_el_camino+rearend_cover_bolt.jpg Again, thank you for your help, but you're just not cottoning on to what I'm asking about.


Shit, youre right. So many different names for that part.

tubing, brake pipe and other sources reference break lines.

I want to agree with you that it's 3/16 tubing
I'd take the tube off of the rubber brake line, bring it into the store and match up the pipe to the tubing at the store.

I think you need to flare the tubing which means the tube is all ready flared you would bring in, but if you take a small pipe cutter and cut off the flare it should work out.

Sorry about that man.

Posted by: bhorste Dec 16 2009, 05:41 PM

QUOTE (Vincent Ingalls @ Dec 15 2009, 11:15 PM) *
Shit, youre right. So many different names for that part.

tubing, brake pipe and other sources reference break lines.

I want to agree with you that it's 3/16 tubing
I'd take the tube off of the rubber brake line, bring it into the store and match up the pipe to the tubing at the store.

I think you need to flare the tubing which means the tube is all ready flared you would bring in, but if you take a small pipe cutter and cut off the flare it should work out.

Sorry about that man.


It's all good. And actually, the parts stores around here sell pieces of tubing that are flared and have the fittings on them, and they loan out tubing benders. It's just a matter of getting the right diameter, a not-outrageous length (I think they come in 10" increments) and carefully bending it around the suspension. I might just pop it off there and take it with me when the time comes (which ought to be soon). Good thing it's the right rear wheel, the least loaded of the 4.

Posted by: 2001VE Dec 16 2009, 08:51 PM

If you keep the back of the car nice and high you might be able to get away without bleeding all four wheels.
I even prefill calipers/wheel cyclinders with fluid, in some cases. Bleeder screws can sometimes be a pain.

They use to have this tubing called Bundy flex ; preinstalled fittings and didn't require you to use a bender at all.
It was heavy gage but soft like refrigeration tubing , nice to work worth.
Not sure if there is an equivalent around.

Posted by: bhorste Dec 17 2009, 04:01 PM

QUOTE (2001VE @ Dec 16 2009, 08:51 PM) *
If you keep the back of the car nice and high you might be able to get away without bleeding all four wheels.
I even prefill calipers/wheel cyclinders with fluid, in some cases. Bleeder screws can sometimes be a pain.

They use to have this tubing called Bundy flex ; preinstalled fittings and didn't require you to use a bender at all.
It was heavy gage but soft like refrigeration tubing , nice to work worth.
Not sure if there is an equivalent around.


Never heard of that stuff. The stuff in the stores here has fitting/flares in place, it's just a matter of bend-to-fit. It's reasonably inexpensive, too (~$5 for a 20" piece). I'm going to check with the local parts places to see if they can help narrow the search.

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