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post Jun 9 2010, 10:26 AM
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I will only use OEM filters for ALL my vehicles. It's a wierd thing I got into. Ifigured the manufacturer probably knows what their cars require in terms of flow, filtration and such.


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Mobil 1 and Pure One filters for me. Advance Auto had a similar deal on Mobil 1 oil and Mobil 1 filter so I used them because of the deal. Remember, when we had this discussion about filters, the OE filter had more media material but we did not test the filtering capacity, ie what sort of media material was used. So even though the OE filter had more material, we do not know the quality over the aftermarket material. I certainly am not suggesting the using a OE filter is a bad thing. Just that a high quality aftermarket filter is not necessarily any less better. In fact I think I read that the Mobil 1 filter media is a special material. I did not read that about the Pure One.

As for oil. I think synthetic oils have proven out-right their superiority to dino oils in every way (other than price). Between brands however, I think it is more based on personal belief rather than objective analysis. All the studies I've seen have been done by the manufacturer. People swear by Amsoil, or Royal Purple, or Mobil 1. I don't think it matters.


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I agree not matter what brand you use a synthetic oil is far superior.


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If you have an OCI that does not exceed about 5k miles or 6 months, and you are a normal driver, you can pretty much use any oil you want (appropriate weight of course). If you want to go farther on the OCI, or track the car, or have other more demanding requirements, then synthetic makes more sense and will give superior protection.

I've run $.99/qt conventional oil and $7/qt synthetics, and done UOA's on most of them. There was no discernable difference for my application (except the price), but I'm pretty easy on the car. I ran some on OEM filters, and some on Purolators - again, no discernable difference (except the price).

I'm currently running Havoline 5w30 with a Purolator filter. My last UOA says I can easily go 6k miles on that oil; trouble is I hit 6 months before I hit 6K miles, so I change it anyway.


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How I would love to time out before I run out of miles..... I see 5000-6000miles in about 2-2 and a half months. Same with the wife's car. THe truck is the exception to the rule, as it spends more time sitting than the other two.


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QUOTE (Bobzilla @ Jun 9 2010, 11:26 AM) *
Ifigured the manufacturer probably knows what their cars require in terms of flow, filtration and such.

True, and they publish those specifications so that their OEM supplier (car companies don't make their own filters) and aftermarket manufacturers can make filters for their vehicles. Reputable aftermarket companies will only sell filters that meet or exceed OEM specs, but some like Fram don't seem to give a damn.


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With this new job, I'll be pushing ~3000 miles/month. Crazy. I'll most likely change oil every other month.


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Mobil 1 and factory filters for me as well...............

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QUOTE (NevynPA @ Jun 10 2010, 09:58 AM) *
With this new job, I'll be pushing ~3000 miles/month. Crazy. I'll most likely change oil every other month.


i've done that for a long time. my average for the car a month is somewhere near 2100 miles a month for 7years. i have 179k...its like 25k a year average.


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QUOTE (only1db @ Jun 11 2010, 06:44 AM) *
i've done that for a long time. my average for the car a month is somewhere near 2100 miles a month for 7years. i have 179k...its like 25k a year average.


Wow - that's some kinda driving, I assume a lot of highway miles. I'd throw in some Mobil 1 (you probably do that anyway) along with some LC20 and extend that OCI out a little. You could probably safely go 10k miles with no problem, maybe more, but I'd get a UOA just to verify. Some guys on BITOG push it more than that.

What OCI do you normally use? Do you stick to the 6mo/7.5k mile recommendation from Hyundai, or have you found something else that works for you (especially since you are way out of warranty)? At 179K, you obviously are doing something right smile.gif. Hell, it'll take me 20 years to get to 179k LOL.


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i shoot for every 3k but it almost always ends up being closer to the 5k mark.

and yeah mobil one and oem filter

the car sees redline atleast once a day if not more.

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QUOTE (only1db @ Jun 12 2010, 07:24 AM) *
i shoot for every 3k but it almost always ends up being closer to the 5k mark.

and yeah mobil one and oem filter

the car sees redline atleast once a day if not more.

3K? Why are you wasting your oil and oil filter? you could run 5k easily for an oci. My car has 178k on it and I run castrol edge with oem filter and my last oci was 7500k and it sees that redline atleast once a day. I had my last one sent in for analysis and they said I could run 9000-9500 miles and still be in the perfectly safe zone. Changing your synthetic oil at 3k seems like a waste to me. It's not my money though so it's up to you.


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