Need help with Entourage brakes
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Need help with Entourage brakes
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Sep 17 2011, 10:23 PM
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Subdude dude Group: Lifetimer Posts: 451 Posts Per Day: 0.08 Thanks Received: 44 Trader Stats: 0 (0%) Joined: 27-June 09 From: Colorado Member No.: 7,353 Mood: Dorky |
Hey gang- I need some help!
Today was project "get ready for fall/winter" for the Entourage. My list today included new rear brakes w/ new rotors and new rear shocks. I'm at 55k and all of them were worn out. New rotors and parking brake service? Check! New rear shocks? Check! Drives and handles much better! New rear pads? mmm... not so much. Here is what happened. I followed all of the directions from HMA service- great! Now, I have done brakes before, but always front- these were my first for rear (ha ha!) Old pads came off just fine, new pads fit just fine. Problem: How to compress the piston on the caliper? I tried -clamp (quick web search showed that was wrong- I stopped). I rented a caliper compressor tool from autozone, but none of the fittings fit the piston to make it turn clockwise. The sun was setting, I put the old pads back on with the new rotors for now- they still have a little life in them. How do I acquire the "special tool" listed in HMA service? What are my alternatives to get these to compress? I really hate to go to the dealer or brake shop and pay them for a pad slap when I have done 90% of the service already. What say you team Elantra? -------------------- 2012 Chevy Cruze Eco 6mt- yay turbo!
2011 Dodge Grand Caravan Crew... Pentastar powah! Prev: 2009 Elantra SE- Great car that served me well |
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Sep 18 2011, 07:37 AM
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Elantra Guru Group: Leader Posts: 3,309 Posts Per Day: 0.62 Thanks Received: 558 Trader Stats: 0 (0%) Joined: 12-August 09 From: Clinton, MA (USA) Member No.: 7,533 Mood: Evil |
Your pistion looks like mine on my HD when I looked in hmaservice - just a large hollow cup piston.
If it's just a hollow cup - any c-clamp will do with your old brake pad used as the block to push back in the piston. Might take some effort but it doesnt look like the screw type piston. -------------------- |
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Sep 18 2011, 08:12 AM
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Elantra Guru Group: Members Posts: 2,710 Posts Per Day: 0.41 Thanks Received: 59 Trader Stats: 0 (0%) Joined: 21-March 06 From: Hackettstown, NJ Member No.: 2,023 Mood: Accomplished |
did you pop the brake booster cap? i have done that before...i forget to pop the cap and the caliper would not go anywhere because of the back pressure.
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Sep 18 2011, 09:06 AM
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Subdude dude Group: Lifetimer Posts: 451 Posts Per Day: 0.08 Thanks Received: 44 Trader Stats: 0 (0%) Joined: 27-June 09 From: Colorado Member No.: 7,353 Mood: Dorky |
It does not appear to be a push/pull type piston- although I could be wrong. I tried multiple times w/ the c-clamp- absolutely no movement whatsoever. They will turn with some force though- although all of my turning clockwise did nothing for movement.
I did pop the master cylinder cap. Derek, do you know what this "special tool" is? -------------------- 2012 Chevy Cruze Eco 6mt- yay turbo!
2011 Dodge Grand Caravan Crew... Pentastar powah! Prev: 2009 Elantra SE- Great car that served me well |
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Sep 18 2011, 10:19 AM
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Club Founder Group: Admin Posts: 21,359 Posts Per Day: 3.03 Thanks Received: 2809 Trader Stats: 16 (100%) Joined: 23-December 04 From: Maryland Member No.: 1 Mood: Okay |
Is this what you're looking for?
http://www.handsontools.com/KD-Tools-3163-...ool_p_5386.html Handontools is now an affiliate of ours. Awesome store for shadetree and pro mechanics. -------------------- |
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Sep 18 2011, 10:43 AM
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Elantra Guru Group: Leader Posts: 3,309 Posts Per Day: 0.62 Thanks Received: 558 Trader Stats: 0 (0%) Joined: 12-August 09 From: Clinton, MA (USA) Member No.: 7,533 Mood: Evil |
According to HMA -
This is your caliper - And this is the "special tool required" From this place - If this is the case, it's just a caliper push tool and not the circular screw type. I think you just need to give it some more oomph when turning the caliper reset tool. Sometimes they get stuck but a good hard turn will free it up. -------------------- |
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Sep 18 2011, 01:04 PM
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That Guy.. Group: Leader Posts: 6,687 Posts Per Day: 1.18 Thanks Received: 724 Trader Stats: 16 (100%) Joined: 20-September 08 From: Neenah, WI Member No.: 6,539 Mood: Thankful |
Sounds like the piston is frozen. You may need a new caliper.
-------------------- "This may be true but it is a chrysler sebring which is synonomous with being a p.o.s. car. Personally I gotta say it's getting really tiring having to clean off the sopping wet panties from my Hyundai Elantra every morning. Bitches love Hyundais." "Sometimes you wonder how the sperm that made that idiot was the fastest swimmer. . . Must've had a "race motor" in it with nass under the hood. . . " - Alex2013gt |
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Sep 18 2011, 01:54 PM
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Poster Pro Group: Members Posts: 924 Posts Per Day: 0.13 Thanks Received: 52 Trader Stats: 0 (0%) Joined: 27-March 05 From: Maryville, TN Member No.: 640 Mood: Awake |
Have you tried to compress on the other rear caliper? If that one slides back in at least you know it is a caliper issue.
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Sep 18 2011, 03:00 PM
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Subdude dude Group: Lifetimer Posts: 451 Posts Per Day: 0.08 Thanks Received: 44 Trader Stats: 0 (0%) Joined: 27-June 09 From: Colorado Member No.: 7,353 Mood: Dorky |
Thanks guys. Yes, I tried both methods on both sides.
If they were frozen, would it be fair to say there would not be any/ minimal rear brake power? The reason I ask is that the new rotors are already starting to look "polished". I may swing by home depot and grab a different C clamp- maybe it will work better than my Irwin speed clamp that I always use. -------------------- 2012 Chevy Cruze Eco 6mt- yay turbo!
2011 Dodge Grand Caravan Crew... Pentastar powah! Prev: 2009 Elantra SE- Great car that served me well |
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Sep 18 2011, 03:21 PM
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Elantra Guru Group: Leader Posts: 3,309 Posts Per Day: 0.62 Thanks Received: 558 Trader Stats: 0 (0%) Joined: 12-August 09 From: Clinton, MA (USA) Member No.: 7,533 Mood: Evil |
this is what I've got -tool link- I picked mine up from harbor freight for $30?
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Sep 18 2011, 03:53 PM
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Resident Guitar Guru Group: Leader Posts: 3,734 Posts Per Day: 0.64 Thanks Received: 437 Trader Stats: 4 (100%) Joined: 28-May 08 From: South Lyon, MI Member No.: 6,125 Mood: Pensive |
Thanks guys. Yes, I tried both methods on both sides. If they were frozen, would it be fair to say there would not be any/ minimal rear brake power? The reason I ask is that the new rotors are already starting to look "polished". I may swing by home depot and grab a different C clamp- maybe it will work better than my Irwin speed clamp that I always use. If the pads are still being held in contact with the rotors, they'll take the manufacturing marks off the surfaces. I'm thinking that your rear calipers are frozen. -------------------- |
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Sep 18 2011, 03:58 PM
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That Guy.. Group: Leader Posts: 6,687 Posts Per Day: 1.18 Thanks Received: 724 Trader Stats: 16 (100%) Joined: 20-September 08 From: Neenah, WI Member No.: 6,539 Mood: Thankful |
I'm thinking that your rear calipers are frozen. Yep. Milehighhyundai, Is the Entourage still under warranty? If so im thinking that they might be covered. It hard to believe that with 50kmiles that the calipers would do that. idk just a thought. -------------------- "This may be true but it is a chrysler sebring which is synonomous with being a p.o.s. car. Personally I gotta say it's getting really tiring having to clean off the sopping wet panties from my Hyundai Elantra every morning. Bitches love Hyundais." "Sometimes you wonder how the sperm that made that idiot was the fastest swimmer. . . Must've had a "race motor" in it with nass under the hood. . . " - Alex2013gt |
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