Kia Rondo, Kia's new Mazda 5
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Kia Rondo, Kia's new Mazda 5
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Dec 3 2006, 11:25 PM
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Nanomember Group: Lifetimer Posts: 7,787 Posts Per Day: 1.11 Thanks Received: 57 Trader Stats: 2 (100%) Joined: 27-January 05 From: College Park, MD Member No.: 106 Mood: Blah |
Okay, it's not technically a Hyundai, but it's pretty close so I put it here. I mentioned this one in the "Why not a 2.4L" thread (because it has the 2.4L) but it deserves its own thread.
http://www.autoblog.com/2006/11/30/la-auto...sms-mark-debut/ http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Autos...icleId=117786#1 http://www.kia.com/index.php I think it's awesome. You have a new family, so you're dealing with car seats and a lot of junk, or you have more than two kids and your compact is getting cramped. You hate the look of minivans (which a lot of people do...) and you're not crazy about SUVs either. You want cargo space and/or seating for up to seven, lots of important safety features like ABS, stability control and side curtain airbags, lots of practicality and some decent-average power under the hood. Plus you're on a budget and you don't like unexpected expenses so you want a Kia-length warranty. This fits the bill perfectly. It could have the 235hp V6 from the Sonata too, it could handle like a Mazda5, it could have some better styling (the front/rear are not bad, the side is ok...) ... but it's cheap, and that's what a lot of people with young families care about. More importantly, quality, reliability and crash test results are still in the "wait and see," phase. I'll look forward to reading the reviews. -------------------- Help keep ElantraClub running and free for all Elantra owners: Donate.
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Dec 3 2006, 11:44 PM
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kia really likes mazda's designs. the spectra5 is beyond a ripoff of the protege5 down to the name.
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Dec 4 2006, 08:42 AM
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I ran out of ideas... Group: Lifetimer Posts: 10,424 Posts Per Day: 1.49 Thanks Received: 31 Trader Stats: 0 (0%) Joined: 28-January 05 From: Gatineau, QC Member No.: 158 Mood: Indescribable |
This is a nice car! I would buy that!
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Dec 4 2006, 10:26 AM
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Elantra Guru Group: Lifetimer Posts: 3,377 Posts Per Day: 0.48 Thanks Received: 1 Trader Stats: 3 (100%) Joined: 11-January 05 From: Boston, MA Member No.: 4 Mood: Accomplished |
it seems like a great idea, especially for anti-SUV and anti-minivan people like myself. the third row is KEY to me liking it. if i had this car, that third row would stay down all the time with the child seats in the second row, and just get flipped up on rare occasion when we needed to tote a third adult.
also, doesn't the optima platform share with the sonata? that should make for a safe, competent platform (compared to an XD, for example). not only does hyunkia copy mazda's styling, they also copied that third row design almost completely from the mazda5... right down to the strap-pull latching mechanism. what puzzles me, however, is that the third row seat does not appear to have *any* leg room. i mean, you'd have to be legless to sit there: -------------------- |
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Dec 4 2006, 01:07 PM
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Nanomember Group: Lifetimer Posts: 7,787 Posts Per Day: 1.11 Thanks Received: 57 Trader Stats: 2 (100%) Joined: 27-January 05 From: College Park, MD Member No.: 106 Mood: Blah |
Maybe it's for childseats only.
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Dec 5 2006, 11:08 PM
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PhD in Intellectual Intercourse Group: Members Posts: 6,167 Posts Per Day: 0.90 Thanks Received: 0 Trader Stats: 0 (0%) Joined: 27-July 05 From: Massachusetts Member No.: 1,187 Mood: Crotchety |
QUOTE (southpawboston @ Dec 4 2006, 11:26 AM) it seems like a great idea, especially for anti-SUV and anti-minivan people like myself. the third row is KEY to me liking it. if i had this car, that third row would stay down all the time with the child seats in the second row, and just get flipped up on rare occasion when we needed to tote a third adult. That's kinda like the wife and I. With the twins if we want to go anywhere with the grandparents or anyone we need to take 2 cars. -------------------- 19 mm sway bar, easy intake mod with K&N filter, Pioneer DEH P4800MP, DC Strut Bar, Brushed Aluminum Dash Kit. |
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Dec 6 2006, 07:20 AM
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Elantra Guru Group: Lifetimer Posts: 3,377 Posts Per Day: 0.48 Thanks Received: 1 Trader Stats: 3 (100%) Joined: 11-January 05 From: Boston, MA Member No.: 4 Mood: Accomplished |
QUOTE (cobas @ Dec 4 2006, 02:07 PM) ah i see your point. according to the specs, the third row DOES have latch, so perhaps that is the intention. it certainly helps keep the car small and pleasantly anti-SUVish. however, you may not realize how large car seats are. they take up a LOT of space, and from the above pic, it appears that a car seat may not even fit between the second and third row seatbacks. does the second row slide fore/aft? the mazda5 has second row buckets, and they do. that would solve that problem. interestingly, the mazda5 does NOT have latch for the third row. i think that is because they want to encourage you to use the second row for child seats and the third row for the occasional unlucky adult. perhaps it's for safety reasons (rear crash)? and another reason to have the kids in the second row is because you have to constantly cater to them, handing things back to them, taking things from them, etc... kind of impossible when there's an entire row separating them from you. QUOTE (RHINESEL @ Dec 6 2006, 12:08 AM) That's kinda like the wife and I. With the twins if we want to go anywhere with the grandparents or anyone we need to take 2 cars. exactly!!! that's our dilemna, except substitute friends and neighbors for the grandparents! we have to fly to see them! --------- okay, here's a comparison of the mazda5 and the ronda, from mazda's website. on paper, the rondo appears to be superior to the 5 in many ways. i'll have to take a much closer look once they start hitting dealer showrooms: 2007 MAZDA MAZDA5 Touring 2007 KIA RONDO EX Price Base Price MSRP $19,150 $19,195 Destination Charge $560 $600 Engine & Transmission Engine Cylinders 4 4 Driveline Front Wheel Drive Front Wheel Drive Horsepower @ RPM 153@6500 162@5800 Torque @ RPM 148@4500 164@4250 Standard Transmission Manual Automatic Braking/Traction & Suspension Brake System (front) Disc Disc Brake System (rear) Disc Disc ABS Brakes Standard Standard Suspension (front) Independent Independent Suspension (rear) Independent Independent EPA Mileage Estimates Fuel Economy City (mpg) 22.0 21.0 Fuel Economy Highway (mpg) 27.0 29.0 Safety Passenger Air Bag Standard Standard Vehicle Anti-Theft Standard Standard Keyless Entry Standard Standard Interior Automatic Climate Control Standard Not Available Power Windows Standard Standard Power Locks Standard Standard Tilt Steering Column Standard Standard Exterior Power Adjustable Exterior Mirror Standard Standard Alloy Wheels Standard Standard Dimensions - Interior Front Head Room (inches) 38.9 41.6 Second Row Head Room (inches) 39.2 40.2 Front Leg Room (inches) 40.7 41.3 Second Row Leg Room (inches) 35.2 38.2 Dimensions - Exterior Length (inches) 181.5 179.0 Width (inches) 69.1 71.7 Height (inches) 64.2 67.7 Warranty Basic (months) 36 60 Basic (miles) 36000 60000 Powertrain (months) 60 120 Powertrain (miles) 60000 100000 Anti-Corrosion (months) 60 60 Anti Corrosion (miles) Unlimited 100000 -------------------- |
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Dec 6 2006, 02:35 PM
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Proud GLT Owner Group: Lifetimer Posts: 21,140 Posts Per Day: 3.03 Thanks Received: 633 Trader Stats: 3 (100%) Joined: 11-March 05 From: Brownsburg, IN Member No.: 532 Mood: Hyper |
Just saw one of these today at lunch. I must say, it looks rather. . . . .wierd. Tall and narrow. By appearance it just looks like it'll tip over in a crosswind.
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Dec 6 2006, 11:00 PM
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Nanomember Group: Lifetimer Posts: 7,787 Posts Per Day: 1.11 Thanks Received: 57 Trader Stats: 2 (100%) Joined: 27-January 05 From: College Park, MD Member No.: 106 Mood: Blah |
Dooh!! Why do I frequently get the feeling that the US is late to the party??
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Dec 30 2006, 05:34 PM
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I Love My NF Sonata Group: Lifetimer Posts: 330 Posts Per Day: 0.05 Thanks Received: 0 Trader Stats: 0 (0%) Joined: 23-March 05 From: Ontario Canada Member No.: 612 |
THe Ronda looks like a winner for KIA.
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Dec 30 2006, 08:00 PM
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Outta the way! Group: Leader Posts: 5,972 Posts Per Day: 0.85 Thanks Received: 272 Trader Stats: 4 (100%) Joined: 27-January 05 From: Citrus Heights, CA Member No.: 33 Mood: Cocky |
I saw one of these on the road the other day. Size-wise, it looks like what the HD Elantra would look like in a wagon form. I hope that is what Hyundai has in mind!
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Dec 31 2006, 02:41 AM
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Club Regular Group: Members Posts: 166 Posts Per Day: 0.03 Thanks Received: 22 Trader Stats: 0 (0%) Joined: 7-May 06 From: Portland, Oregon Member No.: 2,195 Mood: Hopeful |
I saw one here in Portland in August filming for a commercial. I was wondering what it was.
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