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> DANGER: K&N Filters, DO NOT OIL EXCESSIVELY!!!
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post Jun 13 2011, 12:12 PM
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For the money, I went with the drop in panel K&N. I did take the resonator out of all the Elantras I've owned.


but the drop in panel costs about 50 euro and the apollo about 100.Yes is acctually twice as much but isn't the apollo twice as good? confused-scratchhead3.gif


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post Jun 13 2011, 12:52 PM
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Between removing the resonator or adding the Apollo I don't think the difference is big. The panel I've had for over 160K miles and I clean it every 10K miles.


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post Jun 27 2011, 06:03 PM
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I. have read this thread and no one has mentioned the fact that K&N filters don't filter well. As a matter of fact, they are one of the worst. The new dry cone filters are much better at removing dust particles which also can effect the air sensor.

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post Jun 27 2011, 06:13 PM
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I'd like to see proof of this.

My stock filter is CA10470 and im using a K&N 33-2380 filter.

No issues.


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post Jun 27 2011, 06:24 PM
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K&N filters just fine, maybe not quite as well as stock but it's certainly a safe filter to use (just don't over-oil it).

The nice thing is you get a horsepower or two from it's free flowing nature. thumbsup.gif


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post Jun 27 2011, 07:00 PM
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QUOTE (elantragt @ Jun 27 2011, 07:24 PM) *
K&N filters just fine, maybe not quite as well as stock but it's certainly a safe filter to use (just don't over-oil it).

The nice thing is you get a horsepower or two from it's free flowing nature. thumbsup.gif


Which is why the eco-nuts don't like 'em. More air=more fuel required to keep the same ratio. So yes, more power, but at the cost of more fuel burn. HOWEVER, that tiny increase in fuel burn MAY allow you to get out of the inefficient low gears and into the top ratios faster/easier, as well as allow you to hold a tall gear down to a lower speed easier, which may provide enough boost in MPG to offset the additional fuel burned.

I say this as speculation, because I haven't done, nor have I seen, long-term tests where the filters are swapped back and forth on the same vehicle.

I'd be willing to perform such a test, if someone sends me a K&N filter...I burn through a whole tank of gas every 4 days with my 140 miles/day roundtrip commute. smile.gif


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I use to work on Motorcycles so I know that the K&N don't filter well, Yes they have more flow which gives you more power, but at at the cost of cylinder and Piston ring wear.
You will still get a lot more miles out of our cars without a filter than you would 30 years ago so it's not that big a deal

See this website for some more info.

http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/filters_test/2/


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post Jun 28 2011, 06:16 AM
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QUOTE (NevynPA @ Jun 27 2011, 08:00 PM) *
I'd be willing to perform such a test, if someone sends me a K&N filter...I burn through a whole tank of gas every 4 days with my 140 miles/day roundtrip commute. smile.gif


I have the K&N panel I took out of my car when I started hypermiling... it needs to be cleaned and oiled, but I'll ship it to you if you want... but I may want it back if it works! tongue.gif

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I have 200 K miles on my K&N panel filter. If anything that small passes through it, I don't care.


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QUOTE (FSUspectra @ Jun 28 2011, 07:16 AM) *
I have the K&N panel I took out of my car when I started hypermiling... it needs to be cleaned and oiled, but I'll ship it to you if you want... but I may want it back if it works! tongue.gif


I'm game. I'll PM you my address.


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