Hyundai Mileage Claims Investigated
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Hyundai Mileage Claims Investigated
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Nov 2 2012, 11:34 AM
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GT for life! Group: VIP Members Posts: 6,303 Posts Per Day: 0.90 Thanks Received: 478 Trader Stats: 2 (100%) Joined: 27-January 05 From: Greenville, SC Member No.: 34 Mood: Optimistic |
Since I'm a numbers person. . . lets put some numbers behind this issue. I will apologize in advance for my sarcastic tone. I consider myself to be fairly frugal yet extremely sarcastic. I also do my research prior to buying a new car so I knew exactly what I was getting in to. I will also preface the following discussing by saying, I would have bought my GT whether it showed 39/27 on the window or the revised 37/26. I am however happy that I now will get a gift card every year especially because I do plan to keep this car for quite a while and pass it down to my son when he turns 16 (unless they come out with a turbo model )
Time to get on my Say Eileen Dover bought a 2012 Hyundai Elantra. Eileen has an easy highway commute and puts on 15,000 miles per year. She bought the car expecting to see 40MPG, but now has learned that the figure should have been 38 MPG. Eileen is devastated. In a year, assuming all highway (which we know isn't very practical), she was expecting to have consumed 375 gallons of fuel (15,000/40 MPG). At a price of $3.50 per gallon she would have spent $1,313 on gas for the year. Now instead, using the revised highway rating of 38 MPG, she will burn through a whopping 395 gallons of gas. Again using $3.50 per gallon, she will actually spend $1,383 on gas for the ENTIRE YEAR. Ohh my, I now know why Eileen is devastated. She will spend on average $70 more for gas for the entire year. She will plunk down $5 on a cup of coffee, each day, but heaven to betsy, she now needs to make room in her budget for an extra $70 worth of gas over 365 days/52 weeks/12 months. That comes out to roughly $6/month. Damn if she would've known that, I'm sure there is no way she would've plunked down 20k on a new car. Now unfortunately for Eileen Dover, her husband Ben Dover, also bought a 2012 Elantra. He, on the other hand drives a normal mix of highway & city miles and puts 12,000 miles on his Elantra each year. He too bought the car solely based on the EPA estimates (he really preferred the uncomfortable Civic). So for Ben he was expecting to see 33 MPG on average, but instead now has found out that it will be 32 MPG. Using the same assumptions above he originally was expecting to spend $1,274 on fuel, but now he will have to dig deep in his pockets to shell out $1,313. His YEARLY budget just went up by a whopping $39. Looks like he is going to have to cut out a couple Big Macs from his diet to afford that increase! Ok, so basically what I am getting to is if you really shelled out 15-20k for a new car solely to save anywhere from $39 to $70 per year on gas, then yes you have a right to be mad. But if you did your research, knew about consumer reviews, read magazines where they did their own reviews and assessments and then bought the car because you liked the features, price and the fact that it got good gas mileage, then be happy that you are now getting a "gift" from Hyundai. If Hyundai/Kia purposely skewed their tests to overstate their mileage, then shame on them. I can't believe that they would purposefully do this though given the fact that the EPA does monitor it and could come in at any time to test the manufacturers claims. In either case, it seems like a lot to do, about a little from my perspective at least I will end my rant with one final thought -------------------- Please consider helping keep the club online and independent. Donate here to help the club.
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Nov 2 2012, 11:58 AM
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Post Maniac Group: Lifetimer Posts: 1,660 Posts Per Day: 0.36 Thanks Received: 136 Trader Stats: 1 (100%) Joined: 25-October 11 From: Palm Springs, CA Member No.: 11,366 Mood: Carefree |
Hey- also.
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Nov 2 2012, 11:59 AM
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Proud GLT Owner Group: Lifetimer Posts: 21,140 Posts Per Day: 3.03 Thanks Received: 633 Trader Stats: 3 (100%) Joined: 11-March 05 From: Brownsburg, IN Member No.: 532 Mood: Hyper |
People suck. That is the #1 reason I'm fixed and we're not having kids. Dogs rule. That is all.
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Nov 2 2012, 12:55 PM
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Club Regular Group: Lifetimer Posts: 160 Posts Per Day: 0.04 Thanks Received: 35 Trader Stats: 1 (100%) Joined: 9-August 12 From: Covington, Louisiana Member No.: 13,322 Mood: Thankful |
I'm getting the mileage that was posted on Serenity's car sticker. 33 mpg combined and I'm a happy camper. So on the claims website, the article says we can refresh the debt card as long as we own the car. Might I be getting around 90 bucks a year until I sell it? If anything bugs me, its not the fuel economy, but that my in-car avg is way off from my actual mileage.
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Nov 2 2012, 01:22 PM
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That Mitsubishi Guy Group: Leader Posts: 2,568 Posts Per Day: 0.57 Thanks Received: 423 Trader Stats: 3 (100%) Joined: 13-November 11 From: Central MA Member No.: 11,480 Mood: Complacent |
Perfect rant, Alex.
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Nov 2 2012, 01:23 PM
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Poster Pro Group: VIP Members Posts: 874 Posts Per Day: 0.20 Thanks Received: 169 Trader Stats: 0 (0%) Joined: 21-May 12 From: Pennsylvania Member No.: 12,773 Mood: Chipper |
Honestly, I am pleased with my MPG but definitely will take this offer to have some "extra" cash here and there. But this doesn't make me look at Hyundai any less - my car is great and got better mileage than my previous car and a lot of others on the road currently.
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Nov 2 2012, 01:36 PM
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Whats this world coming to...
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Nov 2 2012, 01:36 PM
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Kia Soul 2.0l drops 6mpg, that's pretty bad.
Hyundai/Kia will have a black eye from this. -------------------- 2005 Sterling EGT - Moonroof - Rear Tib struts - Tib Sway bar - RRM Rear Strut bar - Anti-Rock Mesh - 31" antenna :)
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Nov 2 2012, 01:44 PM
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Proud GLT Owner Group: Lifetimer Posts: 21,140 Posts Per Day: 3.03 Thanks Received: 633 Trader Stats: 3 (100%) Joined: 11-March 05 From: Brownsburg, IN Member No.: 532 Mood: Hyper |
Even if I was offered the money, I wouldn't take it on principle. This is a stupid, unfounded bullshit claim that is just a scam for people with buyer's remorse to get some cash. Greed. Pisses me off is what it does.
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Nov 2 2012, 01:48 PM
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Expert in generalizations Group: Members Posts: 742 Posts Per Day: 0.11 Thanks Received: 21 Trader Stats: 0 (0%) Joined: 27-January 05 From: Pontiac, QC, Canada Member No.: 27 Mood: Okay |
It's not the actual numbers that bug me. I agree with everyone; a couple of difference in MPG is nothing to sneeze about and it would certainly not prevent me from buying the car. The problem, as I see it, is that yet again, the company has claimed slightly inflated numbers to gain a market advantage for several years before getting caught. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and assume that it was an honest mistake. Let's face it: in marketing terms, displaying a big 40 mpg number instead of a 39 is significant. It's like advertizing a car for 19999 instead of 20511 (same percentage of error in both cases); there's a definite, proven perception by the public that the 19999 car is a much better deal, even though there's really only 2.5% difference.
In Canada, the magic fuel consumption threshold seems to be that anything < 5.0 l/km highway is fantastic (It is quite good, like 48 mpg US). Well guess what, the elantra has been marketed with a 4.9 hwy number. Now they have to bump it up to 5.2, making it a competing choice with anything and everything that lands between 5.0 and 5.9. Much less fantastic (but still extremely good, from a subjective standpoint) for someone buying with fuel economy in mind. In the end, there's nothing wrong with the car, but I can understand how some people feel that they have been taken for a ride. Me, I don't really care, I don't own one and will likely not in the near future, but you sure won't see me argument ever again for Hyundai in the fuel consumption threads. Yves -------------------- '13 Dark Grey Toyota Camry Hybrid LE, 2.5L w/HSD transmission. RTX 16" Multi Silver Wheels & Stock Tires. WeatherTech floor mats. I live in Luskville, QC (near Ottawa), Canada
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Nov 2 2012, 03:31 PM
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/story/2012...yundai-gas.html
https://hyundaifuelconsumption.ca/ This post has been edited by andy150: Nov 2 2012, 03:32 PM -------------------- A proud member of the club.
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Nov 2 2012, 03:48 PM
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Post Maniac Group: Lifetimer Posts: 1,660 Posts Per Day: 0.36 Thanks Received: 136 Trader Stats: 1 (100%) Joined: 25-October 11 From: Palm Springs, CA Member No.: 11,366 Mood: Carefree |
Hey-I admire Hyundai for stepping up to the plate for their customers rather than denying the discrepency in mileage with court resolution.
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