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Posted by: f1guy68 Jun 14 2005, 11:42 AM

The first thing I will recommend is that you wash your vehicle well in a shady or covered area! Use the two bucket method. One bucket with your car wash solution, the other bucket with just plain clean water. Use a genuine sheepskin or wool wash mitt and try not to use a sponge! Sponges trap dirt at the surface where as the wool mitts will hold the dirt up and out of the way!

So...rinse your mitt in the plain water bucket and squeeze the excess water out, now dip into your wash solution and wash a section of your car. Now dip your dirty wash mitt into the plain water to rinse the debris and then back into your wash solution! You get the drift of this by now I'm sure.

You do not need to dry as yet. Perhaps remove most of the standing water on the flat surfaces, but that's it for now.

After you have washed you can clay your car. I would suggest one of the two following kits that can be bought most anywhere automotive cleaning supplies are sold;

Mothers California Gold Clay Bar System - Comes with a Bottle Of Instant Detailer, A Yellow Clay Bar and a small bottle of Cleaner Wax.

Meguiar's Clay Bar Kit - Comes with a Bottle Of Quick Detailer and a White Clay Bar.

Have a few soft clean 100% cotton terry towels or micro fiber towels ready as well for wiping up.

In both cases the Instant or Quick Detailer will act as your lubricant for the clay bar! Clay is a soft mailable substance that will effectively and safely remove contamination such as rail dust, Industrial fallout etc. from your paint, glass, plastics etc. when used in a safe and as directed manner as below.

Here we go...

Break your clay bar into two equal pieces. This way if you drop a piece of clay you have another to use! If you drop the clay..THROW IT AWAY! Do not use it.

Mold the clay in your hand to soften it and then mold it flat but not too flat between your palms. Spray a section of your hood (let's say a 1/4 of the hood) liberally with the Instant Detailer. LUBRICATION IS THE KEY! Use plenty of lube. Now pass the clay over the lubricated section using linear (back to forth) motion and LIGHT pressure to begin. Use a little more pressure as you understand a feel the action of the clay bar. You will feel and possibly hear the contamination being pulled from your paint up into the clay. It will feel rough at first, DO NOT PANIC and then it will smooth right out! When the feeling goes smooth and the clay bar passes over the section with ease, it's safe to assume that that area in now clean of debris. Look at the clay...filthy right?? Good..it's working. Wipe that area dry and thoroughly with a quality micro fiber towel or a 100% cotton soft terry towel.

It can be a little messy and runny but it wipes up very easily and will not stain your car or trim etc. If you do a nice job wiping up, it will save you the extra effort of having to re-wash the car or re-do the whole car with just the instant detailer and clean towel again!

Now run your hand over that section..it should be as smooth as glass and very shiny just by virtue of clean paint.

Now..turn the dirty side of the clay over to expose a cleaner side of clay. Don't worry, the dirt will turn in and be suspended high enough in the clay to let you work safely.

Spray another section of the hood and follow the same routine as above. Again..I cannot stress the importance of LOTS OF LUBE! If the clay feels like it is sticking to the paint, then you need more lubrication. After each area is complete, wipe it dry. You can do the same for your windows as well and even your trim.

I would suggest you do the whole car this time around! This way you have totally clean paint and a fresh "canvas". If you feel your clay is getting too dirty to use, then use the 2nd half that you broke off and set aside! My experience tells me that you should get by doing the whole car with 1/2 a bar, but use your good common sense and switch to a clean piece if you feel the need.

And YES..it might sound as though you are scratching your paint with the clay bar, but I say again..that with lots of lube and even pressure you will not be at risk.

Now...stand back and marvel at the results you just achieved with a simple piece of clay! You will probably not even feel the need to wax the car because the instant detailer will leave a great shine providing you did a nice job of wiping up after yourself. But you will wax...because I said so....lol

From this point on, you can follow up with the wax of your choice if you wish! Keep in mind that a clay bar will have removed any wax you had on your paint as well!

You do not need to clay every time you clean your car! I would think that once a year is fine.

Geez...have I forgotten anything??? I don't think so! If you have any questions ask away! I would be more than happy to help!

Have Fun

Posted by: Bigs Jun 14 2005, 11:48 AM

That some good read Rich! thumbsup.gif I couldn't think of anything to add!

Posted by: Gelicious Jun 14 2005, 11:49 AM

Will this method also work on areas that are not metal, such as the rear and front bumpers? I am going to really detail my car out for the shinny contest.. just wanted to know if i can use this on plastic peices as well?

Posted by: f1guy68 Jun 14 2005, 12:02 PM

QUOTE (Gelicious @ Jun 14 2005, 12:49 PM)
Will this method also work on areas that are not metal, such as the rear and front bumpers? I am going to really detail my car out for the shinny contest.. just wanted to know if i can use this on plastic peices as well?
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Yes indeed! Plastic, glass, chrome, your rims etc.

Posted by: Roydjt Jun 14 2005, 12:08 PM

Rich, your timing is impeccable! Tomorrow I plan on trying a clay bar for the first time, so your recommendations here will be well-heeded! I plan on following the claybar with a layer of NXT, and to top it off with some P21s!

-Roy

Posted by: f1guy68 Jun 14 2005, 12:11 PM

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Rich, your timing is impeccable!


I know...I know.... rofl.gif

Sounds like a good plan you have Roy! If I could suggest letting the NXT cure for at least 12 hours before applying the P21S.

Just use lot's of Lube! The rest will come naturally. Light pressure to start, you will know when to press harder if needed.

You'll be fine!

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Posted by: Migs 01 Jun 14 2005, 12:38 PM

yep claying is an important part of the detailing regimen. And for those of you who are pretty lazy like me there are speed clay foams on the market that perform all the functions of a clay bar with less mess in my opinion. the one i use is made by Diamondite. Basically it's a foam that contains chemical bond busters and kaolin clay. Spray on, rub lightly and wipe off.

Posted by: Lethal Injection Jun 14 2005, 12:43 PM

You provide some pretty sweet info F1. It's really great having you as a member of our club. Your knowledge of Detailing techniuqes and products is absolutely phenominal, and it's nice that you are willing to share all of your wisdom w/ us. Thanks Man! thumbsup.gif

Posted by: f1guy68 Jun 14 2005, 12:47 PM

QUOTE (Lethal Injection @ Jun 14 2005, 01:43 PM)
You provide some pretty sweet info F1.  It's really great having you as a member of our club.  Your knowledge of Detailing techniuqes and products is absolutely phenominal, and it's nice that you are willing to share all of your wisdom w/ us.  Thanks Man! thumbsup.gif
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blush.gif Thank You! I love what I do and I love sharing the things I do know!

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Posted by: f1guy68 Jun 14 2005, 01:35 PM

QUOTE (Migs 01 @ Jun 14 2005, 01:38 PM)
yep claying is an important part of the detailing regimen.  And for those of you who are pretty lazy like me there are speed clay foams on the market that perform all the functions of a clay bar with less mess in my opinion.  the one i use is made by Diamondite.  Basically it's a foam that contains chemical bond busters and kaolin clay.  Spray on, rub lightly and wipe off.
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Here is what Migs is using (I think it's this one, they have two kinds):

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Migs,

I have never used this product as yet! How does it compare results wise to an actual clay bar?

Thanks for mentioning the product!

Posted by: cclngthr Jun 14 2005, 01:53 PM

Like with most products, people can overdo the claying, by rubbing it too hard or too long in an area. Just use enough lube (soak the surface) and rub until it is smooth.

Posted by: Migs 01 Jun 14 2005, 02:27 PM

QUOTE (f1guy68 @ Jun 14 2005, 02:35 PM)
Here is what Migs is using (I think it's this one, they have two kinds):

http://www.premiumautocare.com/di10ouspclsp.html
Migs,

I have never used this product as yet!  How does it compare results wise to an actual clay bar? 

Thanks for mentioning the product!
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I use the one on the bottom of the page you posted. for a surface that is kept in good shape speed clay works just as good as a bar. if you surface is in need of some serious help then and bar is what you need IMO. A bar will also last longer than a can of foam. Oh i almost forgot. they make a clay pad for the 7424. It has a pocket in the middle that you mold the clay into and then clay using your DA. Never tried it but they make it.

Posted by: f1guy68 Jun 14 2005, 02:37 PM

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It has a pocket in the middle that you mold the clay into and then clay using your DA. Never tried it but they make it.


I have seen it, I have read about Pro's trying it and throwing it away....lol

Thanks for the info on the Spray Clay.

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Posted by: Bigs Jun 15 2005, 06:52 AM

QUOTE (f1guy68 @ Jun 14 2005, 03:37 PM)
I have seen it, I have read about Pro's trying it and throwing it away....lol

Thanks for the info on the Spray Clay.

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Not sure but I would rather clay by hand... You get the feel for things! I cannot see myself using a PC for that. Some things are better off the way they were!

Now Richard will come out with a smart 150.gif comment! rofl.gif

Posted by: f1guy68 Jun 15 2005, 08:02 AM

QUOTE (Bigs @ Jun 15 2005, 07:52 AM)
Not sure but I would rather clay by hand...  You get the feel for things!  I cannot see myself using a PC for that.  Some things are better off the way they were! 

Now Richard will come out with a smart 150.gif  comment!  rofl.gif
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I would be inclined to try the spray clay, but somehow think I would prefer a good old fashioned hand rub 676.gif

Happy Bigs.....lol

Posted by: Bigs Jun 15 2005, 08:29 AM

QUOTE (f1guy68 @ Jun 15 2005, 09:02 AM)
I would be inclined to try the spray clay, but somehow think I would prefer a good old fashioned hand rub 676.gif

Happy Bigs.....lol
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Hand rub eh Rich! rofl.gif Yes I'm happy!

Posted by: Memster1 Jun 15 2005, 11:39 AM

[quote=f1guy68,Jun 15 2005, 09:02 AM]
I would be inclined to try the spray clay, but somehow think I would prefer a good old fashioned hand rub 676.gif

I don't think the PC was meant to replace the "hand" 676.gif but if anyone wants to try and report back - have at it!

Posted by: f1guy68 Jun 15 2005, 11:51 AM

[quote=Memster1,Jun 15 2005, 12:39 PM]
[quote=f1guy68,Jun 15 2005, 09:02 AM]
I would be inclined to try the spray clay, but somehow think I would prefer a good old fashioned hand rub 676.gif

I don't think the PC was meant to replace the "hand" 676.gif but if anyone wants to try and report back - have at it!

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Hahahahahaha...I wouldn't want the PC on any speed faster than 3....lol

Speed 6 and you would have one very shiny package.....hahahahahaha

"The boys" would be hanging down to your knees after a shaking like that.... rofl.gif

Posted by: Bigs Jun 15 2005, 12:19 PM

QUOTE (f1guy68 @ Jun 15 2005, 12:51 PM)
Hahahahahaha...I wouldn't want the PC on any speed faster than 3....lol 

Speed 6 and you would have one very shiny package.....hahahahahaha

"The boys" would be hanging down to your knees after a shaking like that.... rofl.gif
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Just like a facial but for the boys! biggrin.gif Helps reduce wrinkles!

Posted by: Memster1 Jun 15 2005, 05:04 PM

QUOTE (f1guy68 @ Jun 15 2005, 12:51 PM)
Hahahahahaha...I wouldn't want the PC on any speed faster than 3....lol 

Speed 6 and you would have one very shiny package.....hahahahahaha

"The boys" would be hanging down to your knees after a shaking like that.... rofl.gif
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Shoot - on 6 you wouldn't have anything left to buff rofl.gif rofl.gif rofl.gif

Posted by: elantragt Jun 15 2005, 05:21 PM

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Just like a facial but for the boys!


blink.gif Geez, the stuff we talk about here. ohmy.gif

Posted by: cclngthr Jun 15 2005, 07:28 PM

I use the PC, but there are times where a hand buff provides a better result.

Posted by: f1guy68 Jun 15 2005, 08:46 PM

QUOTE (elantragt @ Jun 15 2005, 06:21 PM)
blink.gif Geez, the stuff we talk about here.  ohmy.gif
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Hey, it sure beats the last time we talked about clay huh??? At least this time we laugh. rofl.gif


QUOTE (cclngthr @ Jun 15 2005, 08:28 PM)
I use the PC, but there are times where a hand buff provides a better result.
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CC, I know you were talking relative to the topic of discussion, but in this case your comment really made me chuckle as we have strayed off topic and are suggesting using the PC for self pleasure....lol

It struck me funny to read your words as they are innocently placed amongst our sinful banter. laugh.gif

Posted by: Migs 01 Jun 16 2005, 01:05 AM

QUOTE (Roydjt @ Jun 14 2005, 01:08 PM)
Rich, your timing is impeccable!  Tomorrow I plan on trying a clay bar for the first time, so your recommendations here will be well-heeded!  I plan on following the claybar with a layer of NXT, and to top it off with some P21s!

-Roy
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Hey Roy how did it go? biggrin.gif

Posted by: Roydjt Jun 16 2005, 02:05 AM

It was easier than I thought. I washed the car and clayed it wet. The clay took a while to soften and really become malleable in my hand. I could feel the clay "grabbing" the dirt and lifting it out of the paint. I could see the dirt on the clay and in the water/Quik Detailer. The paint was left feeling slicker, and the whole car only took me like 20 minutes. My neighbors gave me some funny looks, but hey, my car is shinier than theirs.

There were some things that I thought would be removed by the clay that were not. I have these little white pinhole-sized dots in certain areas, I think it's wax buildup. Most of it was removed by the clay, but not all.

The only bummer of the job was seeing all of the new rock chips I have. >:-(

I followed that up with a layer of Meguiar's NXT and later on a coat of P21S. Today was overcast and grey, not the kind of day to take photos to show how shiny a finish looks, so I didn't snap any. If tomorrow is decent, I'll take a few.

-Roy

Posted by: Bigs Jun 16 2005, 06:37 AM

QUOTE (Roydjt @ Jun 16 2005, 03:05 AM)
It was easier than I thought.  I washed the car and clayed it wet.  The clay took a while to soften and really become malleable in my hand.  I could feel the clay "grabbing" the dirt and lifting it out of the paint.  I could see the dirt on the clay and in the water/Quik Detailer.  The paint was left feeling slicker, and the whole car only took me like 20 minutes.  My neighbors gave me some funny looks, but hey, my car is shinier than theirs.

There were some things that I thought would be removed by the clay that were not.  I have these little white pinhole-sized dots in certain areas, I think it's wax buildup.  Most of it was removed by the clay, but not all. 

The only bummer of the job was seeing all of the new rock chips I have. >:-(

I followed that up with a layer of Meguiar's NXT and later on a coat of P21S.  Today was overcast and grey, not the kind of day to take photos to show how shiny a finish looks, so I didn't snap any.  If tomorrow is decent, I'll take a few. 

-Roy
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That's awsome Roy! Glad you had the guts to try it out! Wasn't it you that was scared to try clay? Anyways, I can't wait to see pictures! thumbsup.gif

Posted by: f1guy68 Jun 16 2005, 07:44 AM

Way to go Roy!

Glad you finally had the experience of using the clay bar.

Those little white dots...I'll take a stab bet that they are underneath the clear and that's why they won't come out. The clay should grab anything that is above the surface and remove it.

I have them as well, and nothing seems to be able to get rid of them. I starting to believe it is another issue with our paint.

Anyway..pictures would be great of the finished job, and maybe a couple of ZOOM pictures of the spots?

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Posted by: Gman Jun 16 2005, 02:25 PM

I just claybared my car last week-end for my first show of the year and I love this stuff. The car feels like it is made of glass. The first time I did this two years ago I didn't use enough lube and was very frustrated by the end of the whole process, this time after reading this post I knew to lube it up and it went a lot better. I found that the lighter you press and the more strokes you use the better the results. After hand washing, drying, claying, and wax on and off I got to go over the whole car 5 times. My arm hasn't hurt this much since that week-end they unlocked the Spice channel for free. smile.gif

Posted by: elantragt Jun 16 2005, 02:41 PM

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I have them as well, and nothing seems to be able to get rid of them. I starting to believe it is another issue with our paint.


Yep, I have them too..as well as rock chips and other "defects". I think the main issue with our paint is that it SUCKS! angry-hitselfonhead.gif thumbsdown.gif

Posted by: f1guy68 Jun 16 2005, 03:19 PM

QUOTE (elantragt @ Jun 16 2005, 03:41 PM)
Yep, I have them too..as well as rock chips and other "defects".  I think the main issue with our paint is that it SUCKS!  angry-hitselfonhead.gif  thumbsdown.gif
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Oh Man..you got them too huh? Are they isolated or spread out all over? Mine are all over the freaking car. There so tiny, but since mine are everwhere they look very noticable to my eye.

Once used to think it was due to the tanker truck leakage and overspray I endured way back or the time a guy at the detail shop sprayed wheels with acid and the wind picked it up, but I'm seeing a trend and am now contributing it to SHITTY ASS PAINT!

We should have a poll about how many owners have noticed little white dots or pinhole looking defects in the paint.

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Posted by: f1guy68 Jun 16 2005, 03:34 PM

QUOTE (Gearcat @ Jun 16 2005, 04:21 PM)
Now you know why I put a bra on my car.  When it's time for trade in or to sell it, the car will be pristine in front without a single rock chip!  biggrin.gif  The nice part is, I can always take it off for the day if I know I'm not going to be on the highway and eating rocks the entire drive.
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Sorry..I was not really talking about stone chips. I have hardly any of those. Some of us have white dots under the paint that is most likely a result of poor paint jobs.

I have the white dots and I have what looks like a million little tiny pin holes.

But yeah..It is a good idea to have some protection like a bra, but in this case it will not do anything for this problem.

Go up to post #25 and that will put you at the start of the white dots topic in case you missed it. thumbsup.gif

Posted by: gpagpa Aug 12 2005, 08:33 PM

FYI: PepBoys has a coupon for the Mothers California Clay Kit for $12, instead of $17.99. The coupon is in the flyer in the front of the store. I was looking for the "blue" clay that was $9.99 that did a good job, but no store had the brand. The Mothers is on sale till the end of August.

Posted by: cclngthr Aug 12 2005, 09:04 PM

QUOTE (f1guy68 @ Jun 16 2005, 01:19 PM)
Oh Man..you got them too huh? Are they isolated or spread out all over?  Mine are all over the freaking car.  There so tiny, but since mine are everwhere they look very noticable to my eye.

Once used to think it was due to the tanker truck leakage and overspray I endured way back or the time a guy at the detail shop sprayed wheels with acid and the wind picked it up, but I'm seeing a trend and am now contributing it to SHITTY ASS PAINT!

We should have a poll about how many owners have noticed little white dots or pinhole looking defects in the paint.

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I have seen cars with them and it is hard to get rid of them. They are not below the clear, but on the top layer and whatever causes them have been baked in by the sun. I think they are caused by pollution.

Posted by: gpagpa Aug 21 2005, 08:53 PM

Just got finished claying the car it looks and feels smooth. It was worth the extra elbow grease to get it done, guess I'm set for another year. One question, F1 how do you store the other half of the clay bar and the one that was just used? I remember reading somewhere, and I put both in a zip lock bag with a few squirts of the lubricant in the bag to keep the bar moist. Is this the right way to store the clay after using it? confused-scratchhead3.gif

Posted by: Bigs Aug 22 2005, 06:49 AM

QUOTE (gpagpa @ Aug 21 2005, 09:53 PM)
Just got finished claying the car it looks and feels smooth.  It was worth the extra elbow grease to get it done, guess I'm set for another year.  One question, F1 how do you store the other half of the clay bar and the one that was just used?  I remember reading somewhere, and I put both in a zip lock bag with a few squirts of the lubricant in the bag to keep the bar moist.  Is this the right way to store the clay after using it? confused-scratchhead3.gif
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That's awsome! Another converted one! thumbsup.gif

As for storing it. You can give it a small spray or just leave it as is. I would put "saran wrap it really tight and then ziplock it and remove all the air. That should keep it!

If you have used it and notice it is dirty, I would consider throwing it out. But that's just me!

Posted by: f1guy68 Aug 22 2005, 07:25 AM

QUOTE (gpagpa @ Aug 21 2005, 09:53 PM)
Just got finished claying the car it looks and feels smooth.  It was worth the extra elbow grease to get it done, guess I'm set for another year.  One question, F1 how do you store the other half of the clay bar and the one that was just used?  I remember reading somewhere, and I put both in a zip lock bag with a few squirts of the lubricant in the bag to keep the bar moist.  Is this the right way to store the clay after using it? confused-scratchhead3.gif
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Way to go gpagpa! It really is worth the extra time and effort to clay. Nothing like smooooth paint!

How dirty was the clay when done?

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QUOTE (Bigs @ Aug 22 2005, 07:49 AM)
That's awsome!  Another converted one!  thumbsup.gif 

As for storing it.  You can give it a small spray or just leave it as is.  I would put "saran wrap it really tight and then ziplock it and remove all the air.  That should keep it!

If you have used it and notice it is dirty, I would consider throwing it out.  But that's just me!
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As Bigs said, just a small spray will suffice as a moisturizer. Maybe some wax paper (baking paper if you or your wife has it) wrapped around the clay and then a ziploc bag or saran wrap.

A couple of times I have had the bag or saran wrap stick hard to the clay, so the wax paper acts as a barrier and helps it from sticking!

Posted by: Bigs Aug 22 2005, 08:07 AM

Gpagpa,
Oh and, where are the pics for us to see? takepicture.gif

Richard,
that's a good tip! The Saran wrap does stick to the bar! That's another added into my detailing memory!

Posted by: silet Aug 22 2005, 08:11 AM

I spray some detailing liquid on the saran wrap and doesn't stick (like the first time I wrapped it tongue.gif ).

Posted by: f1guy68 Aug 22 2005, 08:23 AM

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I spray some detailing liquid on the saran wrap and doesn't stick (like the first time I wrapped it  tongue.gif  ).
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Damn, I gotta start reading what I write blink.gif yup! I lubed it groucho.gif

Posted by: gpagpa Aug 22 2005, 05:56 PM

Thanks for the input, guys. No picture, camera lent out, but anyone that has clayed, it feels like glass, smooth with no imperfections. Again, got the Mothers clay package at PepBoys on sale for $12. The clay did not seem that dirty, I did the front behing the wheels last and it picked up a bunch of tar that was stuck to the bottom, but I kept kneeding it over and over, it did not seem to be too fill with gunk. It did a wonder on the glass.

Posted by: f1guy68 Aug 22 2005, 05:58 PM

QUOTE (gpagpa @ Aug 22 2005, 06:56 PM)
Thanks for the input, guys.  No picture, camera lent out, but anyone that has clayed, it feels like glass, smooth with no imperfections.  Again, got the Mothers clay package at PepBoys on sale for $12.  The clay did not seem that dirty, I did the front behing the wheels last and it picked up a bunch of tar that was stuck to the bottom, but I kept kneeding it over and over, it did not seem to be too fill with gunk.  It did a wonder on the glass.
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Those comments are like music to my ears!

Good method you used as well thumbsup.gif

Posted by: MrGisriel Sep 10 2005, 09:32 PM

Well... I just got in from cleaning my car. I spent about 4 hours just cleaning the outside of my car. 1st I washed it with KIT's yellow carnuba wax formula, 2nd dryed it, 3rd Clayed it, 4th, Waxed it with Meguiar's NXT Wax (Spray, wax). It is SOOOOOO SMOOTH! thumbsup.gif I cleaned the rims with Meguiar's Hot Wheel Cleaner (best stuff I have tried yet smile.gif), then cleaned the tires and used Extreme Tire Shine. I spent all day yesterday getting the "black tape" over the windows and getting the adhesive off, then did the above today. Tomm. I am going to do the inside and I will be good untill next weekend, man cant stand a dirty car ! lol.gif Will post pics tomm.

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Posted by: f1guy68 Sep 11 2005, 12:51 AM

Another claying success thumbsup.gif

Look forward to pic's.

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Posted by: MrGisriel Sep 11 2005, 06:33 PM

Thanks...... Well here are some pics! smile.gif Pics dont ever do justice but it still lokks sharp! The car is soooo much smoother now!




Posted by: f1guy68 Sep 11 2005, 06:40 PM

Great Job!

I can see the smoothness of the surface in the reflections thumbsup.gif

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Posted by: Bigs Sep 12 2005, 07:58 AM

Good job Mang! thumbsup.gif Nice reflections! Looks very smooth! The goodness of claying! smile.gif

Posted by: mswyld Oct 17 2005, 07:45 PM

after clay bar quik clay-meguiars biggrin.gif thumbsup.gif



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so damn clean and shiny

Posted by: f1guy68 Oct 17 2005, 08:08 PM

Awesome Shine and Great Looking Car!

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Keep up the great work!

Posted by: Jonas Oct 17 2005, 08:39 PM

Veeeery nice clapsmiley.gif clapsmiley.gif Great job sarcasitc-bow.gif

Posted by: Bigs Oct 18 2005, 06:50 AM

Wow great job mswyld!!! Nice ride! thumbsup.gif

Posted by: mswyld Oct 18 2005, 06:30 PM

thanks guys !

the clay bar is the best well worth the time and effort! thanks for your advice of the claying technique!

Posted by: Bigs Oct 18 2005, 06:43 PM

That what we are here for! wink.gif thumbsup.gif

Posted by: f1guy68 Oct 18 2005, 06:51 PM

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the clay bar is the best well worth the time and effort!


Absolutely! thumbsup.gif

Posted by: Bigs Jan 11 2006, 01:35 PM

Can we have this pinned?

As the info Richard provided is good to have at reach!

Oh and thanks for pinning my other post on chip repairs!! thumbsup.gif

Posted by: KeWLKaT Apr 25 2007, 12:29 AM

damn you all I am really reading up on detailing lately and a lot of things that bigs has been posting.

in not too long i will get a ROB from my uncle woohooo

anyhow...

clay i going to come in around a week! cant wait! I have some meguiars wax here thats been chilling forever i think ill use that.... also have some mothers.... which one should i use HMMMMM

beleive it or not I have NOT waxed my car EVER since the 2 years ive had it, haha.

i will try the clay on the hood first since im putting the cf one on in not too long! smile.gif

Posted by: Roydjt Apr 25 2007, 12:35 AM

Like stated earlier in this thread, use lots of soap! I found that it worked well if I washed the car and then went back with a fresh bucket of suds and clean wash mitt. Lather up an area generously and let the clay do its thing. When done, a quick pass over the whole car with the mitt, rinse, dry, wax on, wax off!

-Roy

Posted by: stephan Apr 25 2007, 12:44 AM

Great Thread! Thanks a lot!

Posted by: KeWLKaT Apr 25 2007, 01:47 AM

ok so you would suggest using soapy water instead of the sprays that come with the kit right

Posted by: Bigs Apr 25 2007, 06:48 AM

Felix,

Get the Meguiars clay kit. It's awsome and there is anough product to do the whole car and more! The lube is actually quick detailer! You may keep it afterwards to maintain your shine after you have waxed!

Just make sure when you clay to use lots of lube, you'll thank me later! Also remember to fold in your clay. Here is a tip you will probably thank me for later on.

Cut the clay in half. Use one half for the top portion of the car and then the other half for the bumpers and rocker panels. If you ever drop the clay on the ground, toss it out! You have the other half as a backup!

Now, what products do you have exactly for detailing?

Posted by: KeWLKaT Apr 25 2007, 11:59 AM

Let me go check and I'll make you a list of the garbage I've had here for the past couple years...
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Alright... Complete list of my detailing garbage...

Meguiar's Deep Crystal Car Wash (I actually use this)
Mother's California Gold Carnauba Cleaner Wax
Meguiar's Cleaner Wax
Meguiar's Deep Crystal System Polish Step 2
Meguiar's Quick Detailer

And other misc. bottle of interior cleaners and leather conditioners.

Posted by: Bigs Apr 25 2007, 12:14 PM

Hey Felix,

You can do a good job with what you have!

-Wash the car with Meguiar's Deep Crystal Car Wash
-Clay with Megs Quik Clay
-Polish using Meguiar's Deep Crystal System Polish Step 2
-Wax using Meguiar's Cleaner Wax
-You may add another coat of another wax on top. Maybe NXT or just skip the cleaner wax and apply NXT paste wax x2.

A paste wax is better and will offer better protection. More expensive but you'll thank me later! wink.gif

With that, your ride will look freakin hot!

Now, you need to apply the polish by machine if you want real results! You are getting a buffer, get the right pads or bonnets for it and that will make it a lot easier!

REMEMBER: Always apply a VERY think layer, if not, you will require too much effort to remove the products. Remove by hand also!

Get good plush m/f towels for removal of products and you are good to go!


BTW, I prefer Megs products.

Posted by: KeWLKaT Apr 25 2007, 01:21 PM

Hey this NXT stuff... Can I find at canadian tire or something?

Also the machine... I won't be seeing for a little while it seems sad.gif You're not coming to montreal any time soon are you? lol.

Posted by: Bigs Apr 25 2007, 01:26 PM

Yes, they have NXT paste at Canadian Tire for 29.99

You have enough for probably 50 details! lol This stuff will rock on black! thumbsup.gif

Posted by: Roydjt Apr 25 2007, 02:22 PM

NXT is available at any auto parts store around here, and even at my local grocery store! I use the liquid stuff and love it.

-Roy

Posted by: KeWLKaT Apr 25 2007, 03:04 PM

So... Question...

Past wax.... How is it different from liquid wax? It's litterally paste like silicone style?

Posted by: Bigs Apr 26 2007, 06:52 AM

Paste man.. Like Tooth paste! lol Thick and not runny!

Liquid, it's liquid, like a thick juice! tongue.gif

Paste wax offers a slight advantage over liquid waxes. It's kind of a more concentrated version... Reason why you need to add a really thin layer/film/haze!

Posted by: Justin! Apr 29 2007, 12:04 AM

what exactly is a clay bar,what does it do,and why is it so important?

Posted by: Roydjt Apr 29 2007, 12:13 AM

A clay bar is just what it sounds like - a little brick of clay. It's a particular type of clay that is great at removing the gunk get gets stuck in the paint and finish if your car. Little particles of dirt embed themselves in clearcoat and paint, and normal soap won't remove them. That's where the clay bar comes in - one pass and most of that crap comes right up. Most detailing product manufacturers make a clay bar, and there really isn't that much of a difference between them all.

If you were to take a plastic bag, like a sandwich bag or a grocery bag, and place it over your hand, and you were to rub your finger along your paint's finish, you would feel friction and slight roughness. The clay bar is probably the best thing at removing the stuff that causes that roughness and friction.

-Roy

Posted by: Justin! Apr 29 2007, 10:22 AM

ah. I get it. Thanks.

Posted by: mikelantra25 Apr 29 2007, 03:41 PM

I am a first time clayer this year as well - I owe it all to BIGS!

Posted by: KeWLKaT Apr 30 2007, 12:33 PM

I went shopping right now:

The only "reputable" claying kit I found was the one mothers offered, so I got that. I'll post results tomorrow.

Also got some NXT paste wax thanks to big, you'll find out what happens tomorrow aswell.

My schedule for tuesday: get up at 8, and rub that car until 5 pm!!!!

lets see what happens.... DUN DUN DUN....

Posted by: Bigs Apr 30 2007, 12:46 PM

Good luck Felix!

The Mothers clay kit is good also, no worries.

That paste will look awsome! smile.gif

Posted by: KeWLKaT Apr 30 2007, 03:25 PM

By the way bigs I saw a 8'' ROB there from simoniz... something like 40$!!!

worth it?

Posted by: Bigs Apr 30 2007, 08:18 PM

Alright I started another thread...

Let's remain on the clay bar topic! thumbsup.gif

Posted by: KeWLKaT May 2 2007, 03:27 AM

thanks bigs

btw everything went as planned, pics, detailed info, and reflection shots will be posted within 24 hours!

Posted by: Bigs Jul 25 2007, 11:02 AM

Here we go... I think I may have posted this before but here it is again!


http://autopia.org/forum/guide-detailing/80231-detailing-clay-pre-wax-cleaning.html

From: http://autopia.org

Posted by: sciphi Oct 19 2007, 10:00 PM

I used the Meguiar's kit. A touch more expensive than the Mothers kit. Yet, you get a nice microfiber towel and a second piece of clay for the additional dollar. Amazed at how shiny it got my J2!

Posted by: bhorste Sep 30 2008, 07:58 PM

Just used the Meguiar's kit myself on the wife's Rio (it's smaller and she gets to park in the carport). Using the clay was as easy as advertised, and she's got a nice, shiny, smooooooooooth silver car to drive to work tomorrow. Hopefully my GT will get the same treatment this weekend, provided I can find time and the weather holds.

On a related note (sorry to wander slightly OT), should I use any scratch remover before or after the clay? I've got some shopping cart scuffs (the hazards of working at a grocery store) that I'd like to remove before I wax. Thanks.

Posted by: Bigs Oct 1 2008, 08:32 AM

QUOTE (bhorste @ Sep 30 2008, 08:58 PM) *
On a related note (sorry to wander slightly OT), should I use any scratch remover before or after the clay? I've got some shopping cart scuffs (the hazards of working at a grocery store) that I'd like to remove before I wax. Thanks.



AFTER! Claying is the first step after washing your car! Then you proceed to polish/compounds, sealant/wax.

Posted by: bhorste Oct 1 2008, 01:32 PM

QUOTE (Bigs @ Oct 1 2008, 09:32 AM) *
AFTER! Claying is the first step after washing your car! Then you proceed to polish/compounds, sealant/wax.


Thank you! Exactly the advice I was looking for. Any suggestions as to which brand of scratch remover? Or should I start with rubbing compound first?

Posted by: Bigs Oct 1 2008, 02:41 PM

Check our Reviews section under Detailing. There are TONS of products that will do the job for little money!

Here is one... http://www.elantraclub.com/forum/index.php?autocom=review&CODE=03&id=261 There is a Turtle wax one a few items down that is also very good!

Posted by: bhorste Oct 1 2008, 04:38 PM

QUOTE (Bigs @ Oct 1 2008, 03:41 PM) *
Check our Reviews section under Detailing. There are TONS of products that will do the job for little money!


Rock on... and with any luck (and a photo from a good angle) I could even snag CotW honors soon. Or at least have a nice, shiny car. takepicture.gif

Posted by: fatmaninasmallcoat Oct 13 2008, 09:33 PM

this is my plan; wash cAR, CLAY CaR, polish car, wax car. i want to protect cars finish before winter! is this a good plan?

Posted by: Bigs Oct 17 2008, 10:37 AM

Very good plan Fatman!

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