Removing TCS & ABS fuses? Options

[cclngthr]

Colin, this thread had NOTHING to do with how the HD works.

I said:

If there is a CAN line fault code, the system and other systems are often turned off or cut in half. LateAPXR could not get his car to rev past 5500 as a result of the CAN line failure.

Reread my post then respond.

[ricerrx7]

On my car, with the many CAN line systems in it, some CAN line failures can cause the throttle response to be cut in 1/2. Other failures can cause the fuel system and ignition system to be turned off (depending on the failure).

This is one instance where I think it might be best to leave it alone (flame on).

Reread your own post, then respond.

[elantragt]

Guys... take it ouside!

Let's keep it friendly ok?

[Toecutter]

Whoa guys! No need to start a fight. I didn't take Colin's response as an anti-mod rant. In fairness I don't think that he was telling me not to mod. He was only warning me that if I mess with it, I might have some CAN issues that I may not be able to resolve with the Equus 3030. In that case, I would take it in to get it straightened out.

I know that the XD is not the HD and that the CAN lines in the XD are probably less advanced than in the HD, but there exists the potential for problems. However, I won't find out unless I try.

So let's say, I will take his prediction of woe "under advisement", and do it anyway.

[roydjt]

Toecutter, I don't think you have to worry about CAN failure codes. LateAPEXR's error was caused by a defective sensor, so the code was a secondary indicator. Besides, even if you did get some kind of malfunction due to the absence of the fuse, all you would have to do is pop it back in and you are back up to full speed.

-Roy

[cclngthr]

I must say this first. People should read the entire thing before jumping to conclusions. It thorougly pisses me off when people can't comprehend something I write. If I have to start treating people here like a 2nd grader, I will do that. You are supposed to be high school graduates and I do expect that out of all adults and have an expectation that you should be able to comprehend on a 12th grade level. If you can't, that is your tough luck and don't need to respond to my posts.

Whoa guys!  No need to start a fight.  I didn't take Colin's response as an anti-mod rant.  In fairness I don't think that he was telling me not to mod.  He was only warning me that if I mess with it, I might have some CAN issues that I may not be able to resolve with the Equus 3030.  In that case, I would take it in to get it straightened out.

I know that the XD is not the HD and that the CAN lines in the XD are probably less advanced than in the HD, but there exists the potential for problems.  However, I won't find out unless I try.

So let's say, I will take his prediction of woe "under advisement", and do it anyway.

I said that LateAPXR had an issue with the CAN line and as a result, he had seen he was limited in power because he no longer could redline. He was limited to a 5500 rpm top rev limiter, not a 6500 rev limit the XD has. He also had his ABS system turned off by the ECU. Any 12th grader who reads at that level should be able to figure that (like the HD) the ECU will limit something in response to certain failures on the XD.

Is it possible for Toecutter to get CAN codes by not having the ABS on? It may, or may not happen. I don't know that if by disabling the ABS on the XD will cause codes. It is a possibility though. Since LateAPXR had a problem with his car, due to a faulty wheel (speed) sensor, on his car, there WAS an issue (which Joe did ligitamately bring up) with a ABS system being off.

Toecutter was asking me about the scan tool he has. I pointed out that there are CAN lines in the XD with certain systems in the car and when disabled, he could run into unexpected problems. If he wants to try it on a weekend without being at a race, that is his choice (and my suggestion) and being prepared for an unexpected result is better than not knowing about it beforehand.

[roydjt]

Attention all: Let's please keep things to the topic at hand and keep personal attacks out of this and all threads. Thanks.

Whoa, please cool down on the flame there Colin. There is no need to insult people by questioning their reading ability.

-Roy

[cclngthr]

Attention all: Let's please keep things to the topic at hand and keep personal attacks out of this and all threads. Thanks.

Whoa, please cool down on the flame there Colin.  There is no need to insult people by questioning their reading ability. 

-Roy

It so appears to me, people ignore certain things in my posts and be VERY selective in trying to refute my statements. They take 1 snippit and ignore the rest, which does piss me off.

[Toecutter]

This has become petty, and the derision by some is quite entertaining. I'm enjoying the drama. Let's keep it going.

[Bobzilla]

Stock Michelins aren't all that great in normal street driving... autoXing with them won't get your far. 

Well, they got about 5 seconds over me. . . . Not the next time though!

[elantragt]

people ignore certain things in my posts and be VERY selective in trying to refute my statements. They take 1 snippit and ignore the rest, which does piss me off.

Colin if you're upset, PM the member directly or a moderator. Airing this type of thing in a thread doesn't help anything.

[ricerrx7]

Colin, lateapxr had a problem with a defective wheel speed sensor right? The can line itself had no problems right? The only reason the CAN line is involved is because it is used to send the signal from the ABS module to the ECM right? So don't you find it misleading to say that lateapxr had an issue with the CAN line? The real issue was a faulty speed sensor and the CAN line worked perfectly fine as far as I recall. Yes, there might be a problem with the scan tool in question not being able to communicate through the can lines, but that is not the debate. You said because of a problem with the CAN line, lateapxr had a driveability problem, which just isn't true.