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post Jun 5 2010, 07:15 AM
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go back and read your manual. Hyundai oil is specifically said and highly recommended you use it. Hell putting in MT-90 could void the warranty, but most techs wouldnt know the difference if they drained it. but an aftermarket filter is plain as day!

i ran out of my warranty some 79k ago.(100k that is)


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I called up my local dealer for the oil filter and they wanted $12+tax. What a ripoff. Any suggestions as to how to get a better deal??


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12 bucks! i get mine for 4....


there are places online that you can buy a case of them for pretty cheap.


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QUOTE (only1db @ Jun 6 2010, 08:15 AM) *
12 bucks! i get mine for 4....


there are places online that you can buy a case of them for pretty cheap.


True, but when you add shipping it adds up to or more than the dealer. I have found places that sell between $5 to $7 but always have ridiculous shipping rates.... mad.gif


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QUOTE (only1db @ Jun 6 2010, 08:15 AM) *
i get mine for 4....


Is this because of your discount, or is that regularly priced???


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QUOTE (only1db @ Jun 6 2010, 04:44 PM) *
i'm not telling. sometimes they are free.


know how that works...lol


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QUOTE (cobas @ Jun 5 2010, 01:03 AM) *
You know this may be a legal technicality or something but really... if an oil filter by a major oil filter supplier voids the factory Hyundai warranty, someone should do something to make this clear to consumers. I mean you go to the catalog and it's listed right there, X-brand filter for Hyundai Elantra. It's not like you have to buy Hyundai oil or Hyundai gasoline.

There's nothing to make clear, as it's misinformation and scare mongering from people who don't know the law.

The TSB was sent out because of problems with Fram and other filters that did not meet OEM specs and were causing problems in Hyundai engines. Read the TSB and you will see that it does not mandate the use of OEM filters. If Hyundai did that, by law (the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act), they would have to provide filters free to every customer. The Act also specifies that a manufacturer cannot void a warranty if aftermarket parts are used, as long as those parts meet or exceed OEM specs. It also states that they cannot require you to have your vehicle serviced by a dealer, unless they are willing to provide that service at no charge.

The bottom line is that you can work on your own vehicle using quality aftermarket parts and your warranty will still be in effect.

Purolator filters meet Hyundai's OEM specs - which you can check on Purolator's website - which is all that's required by law to maintain the warranty. There are several other quality filters out there as well. You do not have to buy Hyundai filters if you don't want to.

If any dealer tells you that they will not cover engine repairs because you used an aftermarket filter that meets OEM specs, go directly to Hyundai Customer Service. Some dealers are a-holes that will look for any excuse to screw a customer, so don't even deal with them. In my experience, Hyundai is very reasonable to deal with, as long as you maintain your car according to their recommended maintenance schedule. Unlike some dealers, they seem much more interested in having happy customers than in screwing them.

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QUOTE (av8989 @ Jun 6 2010, 08:07 AM) *
I called up my local dealer for the oil filter and they wanted $12+tax. What a ripoff. Any suggestions as to how to get a better deal??

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12 bucks! i get mine for 4....
there are places online that you can buy a case of them for pretty cheap.

I'd check another dealer - It's amazing how one dealer will charge more for the same thing. Like Bnystrom said - some dealers are A-holes

When I picked up my filters I got a 10 pack, and split it with MEly (which reminds me I need to pay him for the filters I bought back). Getting the 10 pack should save you some, I believe it worked out to about $6 a filter (Canadian prices mind you). When I bought some individually they were about $8.

As for Purolator filters, I've only read good things about them, believe someone even tore it apart to compare to the OEM one. Say no to Fram!


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from my experience at three different dealerships, they will find a way around it. whether its right or wrong.


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Local dealer sells them for $5 each, if I buy a few at a time ($7 if I buy one). I get four at a time.


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QUOTE (only1db @ Jun 7 2010, 06:48 AM) *
from my experience at three different dealerships, they will find a way around it. whether its right or wrong.

As I said, when it comes to any substantial warranty work, never take a dealer's rejection as final. Go directly to Hyundai and explain your situation. When I had transmission problems with a car that was 4K miles out of warranty, they were more than willing to work with me and I was very pleased with their attitude, helpfulness, professionalism and the arrangement we worked out. It's one of the reasons that I bought my Elantra, which was my second Hyundai.

I don't know why, but there seems to be two types of dealers, those that do warranty work without complaint and those that do everything they possibly can to avoid it. I have no idea why, as my understanding is that Hyundai is pretty reasonable when it comes to dealer reimbursement for warranty work. Perhaps one of of the dealership employees here can enlighten us on that.

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